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#491
interesting tweet about what was needed to create Jolla
https://twitter.com/SaniLeino/status/535460240805101568

so more than 30 million euros and 306,000 man hours (about 35 years)
 

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#492
Its official - Atom Z37xx (Bay-Trail-T) line:
http://newsroom.intel.com/community/...wered-by-intel
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Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
I posted a proposal to use Cherry Trail SoC with Broadwell GPU (personally I don't mind if that means delaying the tablet, but those chips should arrive sometime in 2015).
Airmont is a process shrink of Silvermont. Nothing else. It'll use slightly less power but won't add features or be faster, CPU side.

It'd probably push the tablet into Q3, and Jolla would likely miss out on the gigantic price cuts / kickbacks / development assistance they're getting from Intel, probably canning the whole project.
 
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Originally Posted by aegis View Post
The Reg are reporting it as having an Atom 3700 series SoC according to Intel
So at the moment we have:
  • Jolla announced that CPU was selected with SW freedom in mind,
  • Stskeeps hinted that the tablet has an Intel GPU,
  • The Register reports that Intel (!) said the tablet is going to have an Atom 37xx CPU

It looks like we'll really get an Intel GPU, great!

CPU must have 1.8GHz, 2G DDR3L-RS and drive 2048x1536 display. The best match in this wikipedia table is Z3740D, though it supports max 1920×1280, as all CPU that use DDR3L-RS do. And all of them are single channel too. Resolution restriction is most likely result of relatively low mem bandwith, since transferring just single framebuffer 2048x1536@60Hz requires 550MBytes/s with guaranteed latencies, and I guess more is needed if compositing is used. So yes, tablet do need well tested high-performance graphics stack to push pixels over spec limit )

And BTW I find it strange that we still don't have detailed hardware specs directly from Jolla and have to compile them from third-party sources, hints and guesswork... Right now most concrete info about CPU comes from what Intel told The Register. That and general silence on TJC about anything related to the tablet. I guess there are reasons, most likely they don't want to loose freedom to change HW specs without bad PR or they have some NDAs.

Update: oh well, now we have announcment from Intel.
 

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Originally Posted by vistaus View Post
Yup, big selling point. 'Cause the average tablet user cares about that. #not It's not only tech people who pre-order it on IndieGogo.
Average users have tons of garbage on the market. Those who are interested in real Linux tablets supported this campaign.
 

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#496
butler: Did you read the Indiegogo page? Of course anything can change, it's a crowdfunding campaign of a planned product, not a pre-order campaign on a finished one. It is smart they don't announce the final specs when they do not know them, heck they are even asking supporters to help to shape them.
 

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Originally Posted by bluefoot View Post
Airmont is a process shrink of Silvermont. Nothing else. It'll use slightly less power but won't add features or be faster, CPU side.

It'd probably push the tablet into Q3, and Jolla would likely miss out on the gigantic price cuts / kickbacks / development assistance they're getting from Intel, probably canning the whole project.
Why would they lose Intel's assistance in that case?
 
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Originally Posted by butler View Post
So at the moment we have:
  • The Register reports that Intel (!) said the tablet is going to have an Atom 37xx CPU
Well Atom 37xx could also bring use some other nice features:
  • VT-x (hardware visualization support), meaning we might be able to efficiently run arbitrary virtual machines with KVM
  • AES-NI (hardware encryption support) - could be used for efficient bulk data encryption (home or whole rootfs & home, etc.)
  • secure key (hardware random number generator) - could also help with encryption when the system is entropy starved
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Originally Posted by nodevel View Post
butler: Did you read the Indiegogo page? Of course anything can change, it's a crowdfunding campaign of a planned product, not a pre-order campaign on a finished one. It is smart they don't announce the final specs when they do not know them, heck they are even asking supporters to help to shape them.
Well, here is an answer from an hour ago. It looked like they considered HW frozen, but now I read it so that they are considering some minor changes. It looks like they already have prototypes or perhaps HW from some OEM, and it's very unlikely that they would swap CPU at this stage if it's not pin and SW compatible. Maybe they will add some pereperals -- wireless charging, a LED, an NFC module if they would fit in existing case...
 

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I hope they'll add a video output port. Unfortunately Thunderbolt 3 won't be ready in time for that.
 

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