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2014-11-21 , 10:15
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the main focus of Jolla is their SailfishOS, however, there is a need for h/w to run the OS initially?
 

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2014-11-21 , 10:19
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Having a reference device for SailfishOS in tablets can prove to be a beneficial thing for them in the future...
 

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2014-11-21 , 10:35
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Originally Posted by MartinK View Post
Well Atom 37xx could also bring use some other nice features:
  • VT-x (hardware visualization support), meaning we might be able to efficiently run arbitrary virtual machines with KVM
  • AES-NI (hardware encryption support) - could be used for efficient bulk data encryption (home or whole rootfs & home, etc.)
  • secure key (hardware random number generator) - could also help with encryption when the system is entropy starved
full disk encryption is a very good reason to want the 37xx bay trail product if the 36xx version with PowerVR GPU does not provide AES-NI.
 
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2014-11-21 , 10:40
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Originally Posted by bluefoot View Post
They went with the Intel chip because they're likely to get enormous assistance from them, either in funding, price cuts, engineering assistance or all 3.

This is one of the reasons why it is so incredibly important, both from a financial and design perspective, that they manage to get a large high quality OEM for the second phone and modify an existing platform. Keeping development costs down for such a small company is so vital .. and why, in my view, the first phone has been semi-disastrous.
Lenovo?

Lenovo create respectable smartphones with x86 chips.

They bought motorola for the hardware, but backed off from blackberry for the software. They might still be looking to differentiate the software offer.
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2014-11-21 , 10:42
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#535
Not sure I have seen the exact chip used in the tablet in the thread... so it is confirmed to be a Z3735F (from Carsten Munk):
http://ark.intel.com/products/80274/...01.83%20GHz%29

Except if there is a last-minute change from some parties...
 

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2014-11-21 , 11:45
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Originally Posted by P@t View Post
Not sure I have seen the exact chip used in the tablet in the thread... so it is confirmed to be a Z3735F (from Carsten Munk):
http://ark.intel.com/products/80274/...01.83%20GHz%29

Except if there is a last-minute change from some parties...
Well, this one doesn't seem to have AES-NI or the hardware RNG, but at least still has hardware visualization support (as all z37XX have that). Oh well, can't have everything.
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2014-11-21 , 11:53
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Originally Posted by MartinK View Post
Well, this one doesn't seem to have AES-NI or the hardware RNG, but at least still has hardware visualization support (as all z37XX have that). Oh well, can't have everything.
i noticed the lack of AES-NI too. shame.
 
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2014-11-21 , 11:57
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Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix View Post
i noticed the lack of AES-NI too. shame.
The datasheet isn't terribly accurate in that regard.
 

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2014-11-21 , 12:32
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More detailed specsheet over here:
http://ark.intel.com/compare/80271,78416,80274,80272

No AESNI in Z3735F. But the D variant has it. Alphabets are serious business.
 

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2014-11-21 , 12:35
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BTW, found two PDF datasheets for the Atom z36XX and z37XX series:

volume 1/2

volume 2/2

Together 4600+ pages for your reading pleasure.
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