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Originally Posted by Morpog
If that's 100% correct, then based on this exchange, it's very good news:
Comments by Sfietkonstantin about that slides: http://sfietkonstantin.wordpress.com...s-on-jolla-ui/
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...85#post1345385
I doubt Qt5x support is for the version of Sailfish that's being used on the 1st Jolla device.
But if it is... then they really do deserve a "slow clap"...
Originally Posted by NokiaN9KickYourAss
How can you be unimpressed if you don't even know or understand what it is?
I don't know Qt but from what I've seen so far I'm not impressed and a bit confused. I can't really see the upside with it?
Anyone who's had a bit to do with the maemo/meego community over the past 2yrs+ (user or dev) usually has a pretty solid understanding.
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Originally Posted by jalyst
QtQuick 2.0 is not avaible on 4.8 it was introduced in Qt5.0. And in the slides they import QtQuick 2.0 my guess is they soon will release a new alpha SDK... I really hope before summer end.
If that's 100% correct, then based on this exchange, it's very good news:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...85#post1345385
I doubt Qt5x support is for the version of Sailfish that's being used on the 1st Jolla device.
But if it is... then they really do deserve a "slow clap"...
How can you be unimpressed if you don't even know or understand what it is?
Anyone who's had a bit to do with the maemo/meego community over the past 2yrs+ (user or dev) usually has a pretty solid understanding.
Sounds like you need to learn to pay attention a bit more...
So why not ship Qt5 on first device? Were not talking about Nokia with plenty of bureaucracy. Actually it would hurt as to not have Qt5. QtDeclarative engine is rewritten in QtQuick 2.0 to be fully OpenGL.
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2013-06-26
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Originally Posted by juiceme
maybe you haven't used an Android device recently?
I fully agree on this. If somebody wants to run android applications, let them get an androd device to run the software on. Cheapest android phones&tablets start from $50.
The merits of Jolla are elsewhere, android compability is just a nice add-on.
the number of apps, even though completely excessive still offers functionalities that are simply not available on any Maemo device & probably never will on Sailfish neither
it would be stupid from Jolla not to include Alien Dalvik, as it may allow them to attract Android users that have found apps & been using them for years.
if they can export the data (possible in many apps) move it to the Jolla device and re-import it there in the same app, that might help getting "casual" users.
get out of your FOSS (ivory) tower.
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2013-06-27
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Originally Posted by misterc
Out of interest, and for the benefit of the people in Jolla/Mer and app developers, could you enumerate the top 5 or 10 apps that you believe make an Android device unique?
the number of apps, even though completely excessive still offers functionalities that are simply not available on any Maemo device & probably never will on Sailfish neither
I haven't used Android except for briefly interacting with friends's devices, and I couldn't find anything that is absolutely useful, so I'm curious...
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2013-06-27
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One of the best android apps are simply the support they've been given- jawbone, parrot ar, smar****ches, fitness devices, and others.
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Originally Posted by ggabriel
The app options of is excellent. But it's individual, so you can't pinpoint just a few. But to me androids killer features are:
Out of interest, and for the benefit of the people in Jolla/Mer and app developers, could you enumerate the top 5 or 10 apps that you believe make an Android device unique?
I haven't used Android except for briefly interacting with friends's devices, and I couldn't find anything that is absolutely useful, so I'm curious...
-Flash still woks extremely well even if abandoned.
-The ease and options for GUI customizations are superior. So many pacs, themes and launchers .
-the screen sizes.
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2013-06-27
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Originally Posted by misterc
well, if those apps would work as expected. But we already know from BB that they don't. So what do you thik it would be the reaction from android turnover when he realizes that his favorite apps from android doesn't work as expected even if the jolla was advertized as "compatible"? He will switch back to android and never look back.
maybe you haven't used an Android device recently?
the number of apps, even though completely excessive still offers functionalities that are simply not available on any Maemo device & probably never will on Sailfish neither
it would be stupid from Jolla not to include Alien Dalvik, as it may allow them to attract Android users that have found apps & been using them for years.
if they can export the data (possible in many apps) move it to the Jolla device and re-import it there in the same app, that might help getting "casual" users.
get out of your FOSS (ivory) tower.
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2013-06-27
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Originally Posted by misterc
Well, android is not my cup of tea, but my son has nexus7 that I maintain (as I have not let him create a google account) so I do know pretty well what jellybean looks&feels like.
maybe you haven't used an Android device recently?
the number of apps, even though completely excessive still offers functionalities that are simply not available on any Maemo device & probably never will on Sailfish neither
Granted, he uses it mainly as gaming platform, and there are plenty of that stuff available on droid. However I do not play games, really.
Other than games, well I do not really see anything useful there on droidland.
Originally Posted by misterc
I don't think so... basically the same reason others have stated here. If the integration is not perfect then it will rather upset the casual user more than strengthen resolve to switch to Sailfish.
it would be stupid from Jolla not to include Alien Dalvik, as it may allow them to attract Android users that have found apps & been using them for years.
if they can export the data (possible in many apps) move it to the Jolla device and re-import it there in the same app, that might help getting "casual" users.
As for data, that's completely different. I fully support that applicatin data (and not the applications) should be exportable/compatible/open formats.
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I am verrrry happy in my tower, thanks for asking
get out of your FOSS (ivory) tower.
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Originally Posted by RX-51
yup mtk is the boss on affordable department
About hardware Jolla will have to compete with - here are the cheap ones coming: http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/23/g...arphone-leaks/
damm spd mstar and rdx should be sent to grave.
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Also Qt5.1 just got beta release and that one is even better multiplatform QML theme based controls/"widgets" also for desktop:
http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2013/0...es-in-qt-quick
so in case of Qt the future is bright. **** Android SDK and eclipse hell.
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