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2012-09-28
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As for devices sponsored by Nokia - they're definitely "owned", not "loaned". At least, that was the case for 74 devices already assigned. I doubt, that it will change for last 26 ones.
As for rules - AFAIK, rule about"can"t get same device type, if You won it from other program already" was only valid for Community Awards. Last time I checked (was while ago) - it was up to Coding Competition, *not* Council, to decide how devices will be assigned by Coding Competition.
I'm certain, that Nokia haven't requested any changes to it (in fact, it's hard to get *any* contact with them, lately), so it's still up to CC Masters, to decide. Council role start and ends by sending list of winners to Nokia contact.
/Estel
As for rules - AFAIK, rule about"can"t get same device type, if You won it from other program already" was only valid for Community Awards. Last time I checked (was while ago) - it was up to Coding Competition, *not* Council, to decide how devices will be assigned by Coding Competition.
I'm certain, that Nokia haven't requested any changes to it (in fact, it's hard to get *any* contact with them, lately), so it's still up to CC Masters, to decide. Council role start and ends by sending list of winners to Nokia contact.
/Estel
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2012-09-28
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Thanks to Woody and Estel for clearing up the loaned/owned question, so there you have it guys 
In regards to previous devices received by the winners, it's probably best to err on the side of caution so no-one is disappointed. From my understanding, Nokia have been strict on the 'one device model rule per developer through a device program' in the past. We make mention of it in the competition rules just in case:
Edit: In case anyone is wondering, I don't have any results as yet.
Last edited by kojacker; 2012-09-28 at 04:38.
In regards to previous devices received by the winners, it's probably best to err on the side of caution so no-one is disappointed. From my understanding, Nokia have been strict on the 'one device model rule per developer through a device program' in the past. We make mention of it in the competition rules just in case:
Device prizes are distributed by Nokia, in accordance with any rules and restrictions of the Nokia device program. Receipt of devices from previous distribution programs could affect the competition winner(s) options of available device. If a suitable device cannot be arranged through the device program, we will make efforts to substitute a share of the community prize fund.
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2012-09-28
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kojacker, I'm sure that most of device recipients (from previous programs) would be honorable enough, to not accept 2nd N950. Heck, if You remember, one winner from Community Awards even donated his *first* device (at least, from programs 
) of this type, to Coding Competition.
Although, IIRC Nokia statement about devices, ti was totally up to us (Community) to decide. I doubt, that anyone changed in that matter. At least, during Community Awards program, it was Council's decision to limit possibility of getting 2nd device from Nokia's programs, not Nokia directive. So, it's probably "hot topic" for CC to decide - the faster, the better, if You ask me. I think it would be great to answer definitely, before winners are announced (just a suggestion).
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In my personal opinion (= feel free to scrap it into trash bin, and don't care) it would be best, for such "controversial" case, to keep honor of being winner, but pass device to another recipient (after all, what can be done with 2nd N950, if we don't like idea of selling it on eBay for more $$$ than whole monetary pool for prizes on CC?).
IIRC, Coding Competition have nice tradition of very honorable winners, that passed device further if decided that don't need it, in reality. So I doubt there will be any big problem, after all
/Estel
) of this type, to Coding Competition.Although, IIRC Nokia statement about devices, ti was totally up to us (Community) to decide. I doubt, that anyone changed in that matter. At least, during Community Awards program, it was Council's decision to limit possibility of getting 2nd device from Nokia's programs, not Nokia directive. So, it's probably "hot topic" for CC to decide - the faster, the better, if You ask me. I think it would be great to answer definitely, before winners are announced
(just a suggestion).---
In my personal opinion (= feel free to scrap it into trash bin, and don't care) it would be best, for such "controversial" case, to keep honor of being winner, but pass device to another recipient (after all, what can be done with 2nd N950, if we don't like idea of selling it on eBay for more $$$ than whole monetary pool for prizes on CC?).
IIRC, Coding Competition have nice tradition of very honorable winners, that passed device further if decided that don't need it, in reality. So I doubt there will be any big problem, after all
/Estel
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2012-09-28
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Originally Posted by Estel
Thanks Estel
kojacker, I'm sure that most of device recipients (from previous programs) would be honorable enough, to not accept 2nd N950. Heck, if You remember, one winner from Community Awards even donated his *first* device (at least, from programs
Although, IIRC Nokia statement about devices, ti was totally up to us (Community) to decide. I doubt, that anyone changed in that matter. At least, during Community Awards program, it was Council's decision to limit possibility of getting 2nd device from Nokia's programs, not Nokia directive. So, it's probably "hot topic" for CC to decide - the faster, the better, if You ask me. I think it would be great to answer definitely, before winners are announced
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In my personal opinion (= feel free to scrap it into trash bin, and don't care) it would be best, for such "controversial" case, to keep honor of being winner, but pass device to another recipient (after all, what can be done with 2nd N950, if we don't like idea of selling it on eBay for more $$$ than whole monetary pool for prizes on CC?).
IIRC, Coding Competition have nice tradition of very honorable winners, that passed device further if decided that don't need it, in reality. So I doubt there will be any big problem, after all
/Estel
It may be that there isn't the same restrictions with the coding competition, but you're the first person who has mentioned that to me. I don't have any direct contact with the Nokia rep to know either way, but the word from current council is that the restriction is in place. So in this case I have to go with the restriction is there so that nobody is disappointed later on.Most people understand that we must abide by the rules of the Nokia device program and basically those exact rules are whatever the Nokia rep decides at that time
Our job at the coding competition is to distribute these devices assigned to us as fairly as we can, but we can't force the Nokia rep to do whatever is decided here. And as you know, our Nokia rep has changed at least once during the competition and it's hard to gauge their mood on things I'll help to accommodate everyone's requests but if Nokia refuses to send a device to someone there's only so much we can do to persuade them. My first task when the final list of winners is in, is to contact them and see if they have received a device before and what their expectation of a prize is. If anyone is in the situation where they are requesting the same device they received previously I can offer to see if council can contact the rep to confirm however I'll make it clear (if it isn't already) about the restriction on previous device programs and it may not be possible. To be honest, we've discussed devices many times in the thread and I think most people are aware of the restrictions we work around. So I'm not sure it's a hot topic, but please don't create it as one now the competition has effectively ended!
Edit: We have the ballots in OpenSTV format, paging Wonko to help with counting the votes
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2012-09-28
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It's strange, that council told You about restriction. when I was Councilor (which covered whole thing about CA), Quim's stance was "you give me list of winners, I send devices" - without any restrictions. I also remember creating such limits during Council's discussions itself, so I have sneaky suspicions that there is some misunderstanding, as such limit was totally made up by Council (as for last device program).
Maybe it's good idea to ask, during today's Council meeting?
/Estel
Maybe it's good idea to ask, during today's Council meeting?
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2012-09-28
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Morning all,
just got a ping from kojacker that the voting closed and the raw results can be downloaded.
Thanks a bunch for the notification.
I am right now getting the raw results and preparing the evaluation.
Will post the rankings asap.
With respect for the upcoming procedure.
I will evaluate the results as described in the Wiki and will post them here.
However, I propose that we treat these results as "preliminary" and leave some time for protest just in case someone has objections.
After, say one or two days, if no objections came up then these preliminary results can be considered verified and thus are the official final results.
Having said that, I encourage everyone to cross check the results.
Raw results, evaluation algorithm and software are all freely available (see the Wiki page).
So, going to do the evaluation right now.
just got a ping from kojacker that the voting closed and the raw results can be downloaded.
Thanks a bunch for the notification.
I am right now getting the raw results and preparing the evaluation.
Will post the rankings asap.
With respect for the upcoming procedure.
I will evaluate the results as described in the Wiki and will post them here.
However, I propose that we treat these results as "preliminary" and leave some time for protest just in case someone has objections.
After, say one or two days, if no objections came up then these preliminary results can be considered verified and thus are the official final results.
Having said that, I encourage everyone to cross check the results.
Raw results, evaluation algorithm and software are all freely available (see the Wiki page).
So, going to do the evaluation right now.
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2012-09-28
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There you are:
Congratulations to all the ("preliminary"?) winners.
As posted before I propose that these results are treated as preliminary in order to allow protest in case there are objections.
After, say 24 or 48 hours, when there had been no protest or possible objections could be checked these results would then become the official final results.
I encourage everyone to cross-check these results.
I added the last places manually as the voting script does not print out the last place.
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Coding Competition 2012 - Desktop, System, and Utilities 1 Saera 2 maecaltasks 3 widgets 4 KhtNotes 5 DingMee 6 PowEdit 7 timenow 8 ReferIt 9 USSD balance 10 modern computer flatboat 11 Server Status Widget 12 AlloCine 13 DoMee 14 VirtRanSim 15 KhtBMA 16 Wleux 17 ext2Manager 18 Sync Yourself 19 CountYourScores 20 Klippr 21 MeeWOD 22 FilmNotes
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Coding Competition 2012 - Games, Graphics, and Multimedia 1 pcam 2 Alpha Strike 3 Crosswords 4 Instago 5 Lone Wolf 6 MaeLyrica 7 Nyan Cat 8 BlockMaster 9 Hits. 10 Square-It 11 Adventlands 12 Meemory 13 Math Bingo 14 TriQuick 15 Reaction Challenge 16 ThrowIn 17 Splat It
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Coding Competition 2012 - Location and Navigation 1 meeTrainer 2 GeePS2 3 EnyTrip 4 Next BART
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Coding Competition 2012 - Network and Communications 1 WifiTrans 2 User Agent Tool 3 genwall 4 Transmission Remote 5 HeySms 6 Bumblr 7 ServerMonitor 8 MoGateway 9 SMS Scheduler 10 MeegIM 11 IrsTerm 12 meeBay 13 syncgcontacts 14 ToggleWlanScan
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Coding Competition 2012 - Other 1 MeeCoLay 2 SIM-Switcher 3 Pomodoro 4 BioPower 5 WPx Emulator 6 MeeGoal 7 Kana of The Day 8 NumboTime 9 Remove Sim Shorcut 10 Task Poach 11 QMetronome
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Coding Competition 2012 - Updates and development on existing apps 1 modRana 2 ProfileMatic 3 N9 Quick Tweak 4 MeeDocs 5 Presence VNC 6 qMetro 7 Crazy Chickens game 8 Mieru 9 AutoCallSMS 10 TxPad QML 11 location2sms 12 Audiobook Reader 13 QNetMan2 14 CacheMe 15 redak 16 Blob 17 MiniBible 18 Puppy File Server
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Coding Competition 2012 - Beginners 1 Alpha Strike 2 SIM-Switcher 3 meeTrainer 4 Crosswords 5 genwall 6 Puppy File Server 7 DingMee 8 AlloCine 9 Next BART 10 Task Poach 11 Hits 12 BlockMaster 13 ReferIt 14 Kana of The Day 15 ServerMonitor 16 ext2Manager 17 Server Status Widget 18 BioPower 19 syncgcontacts 20 MeeWOD 21 QMetronome 22 NumboTime 23 Math Bingo 24 Reaction Challenge 25 Sync Yourself 26 FilmNotes
As posted before I propose that these results are treated as preliminary in order to allow protest in case there are objections.
After, say 24 or 48 hours, when there had been no protest or possible objections could be checked these results would then become the official final results.
I encourage everyone to cross-check these results.
I added the last places manually as the voting script does not print out the last place.
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2012-09-28
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HAHAHAHA !
5 th !!! I think i will cry ...
HAHAHAHA !
The life is dirty
Anyway, Thanks all !!!!
Last edited by titilambert; 2012-09-28 at 07:51.
5 th !!! I think i will cry ...
HAHAHAHA !
The life is dirty
Anyway, Thanks all !!!!
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As for when results will be ready, the machine will make the vote tallies available as soon as the poll closes. However, due to considerations like those above (and the fact that some entrants are in multiple categories, and can only validly win one category?) the "official" results may be somewhat different for a given category than what a simple run of the vote counter would yield.
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