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2013-04-15
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As for other things, I don't think anyone is going to "define what cooperation is", or try to explain, why cooperation is better than outright conflict, and why Community want it, not your bashing show.
It shouldn't be kindergarten, and posts demanding that, are not helping, at all (I'm looking at you, joerg_rw). From head of tech staff, I would expect table, answering things asked for (urgent, soon-to-be-urgent, and important in long run) things, that tech staff expect from Board (like signing contracts, etc). that, and only that info - not spoiled by some accusations, clever talking, or politics in between. Believe it or not, but any hostility in post here, spoils it as whole, making it unreadable (even if important things are hidden inside, between bashing lines).
/Estel
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2013-04-15
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So, your point is that "Update from Board" is fake, as it wasn't agreed by other 2 Board members? Woody and Jim could comment on it?
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2013-04-15
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From head of tech staff, I would expect table, answering things asked for (urgent, soon-to-be-urgent, and important in long run) things, that tech staff expect from Board (like signing contracts, etc). that, and only that info - not spoiled by some accusations, clever talking, or politics in between. Believe it or not, but any hostility in post here, spoils it as whole, making it unreadable (even if important things are hidden inside, between bashing lines).
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2013-04-15
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This problem however is going to solve itself in about 3 weeks when I will no longer be part of the council.
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2013-04-15
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I can tell you with certainty that I was not contacted about this "press release" posted on the site. The opportunity was/is there, as I mailed out my home number and a direct-to-cell e-mail to both Council and Board some time ago (along with my two small weekly unavailable times) to ensure I was not the one blocking when it came to getting things done.
While I can't say for certain, I'm doubtful that he contacted Jim about this, since if he had he would have confirmation about Jim's availability of the upcoming meeting. Based on the (admittedly limited) correspondence I've had with Jim, I think he's been left out of the loop on a lot of things. Sometimes intentionally, and others due to e-mail filtering on his side, which I hope is now corrected.
Regardless, for one Director to post their point of view as "factual" on the HiFo site, when there are clear disagreements on the state of things, is out of line.
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2013-04-16
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#77
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please stop playing showmaster on
[Hildon Foundation] A personal introduction by Jimjag (Jim Jagielski)
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2013-04-16
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Well, I had hard time deciding if quoting it here wouldn't be bringing pitiful thing to a higher level than required, but I assume, that ignoring it would be again open nature of the problem, so here it is:
I've got a PM from a Councilor and current head of tech staff (the one I asked to post here a blame-less summary, on what exact actions tech staff expect from Board), with following content (whole message, no cuts):
Originally Posted by joerg_rw:
please stop playing showmaster on
[Hildon Foundation] A personal introduction by Jimjag (Jim Jagielski)
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thanks
Considering, that all 4 posts on this thread were volunteer initiative to help conflicted sides start maintaining a civil and flame-less communication, I don't know what to think about it. Especially, that joerg_rw thanked majority of my posts here, myself (maybe he removed those thanks now, haven't checked).
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Maybe for some, on both side of the fence, "people mean well" doesn't mean anything, and peaceful cooperation between Board members and Board<->Council would be bad for personal "visions" and plans. Really, no idea.
Still, I've stated, from the very beginning, that my humble volunteer work in maintaining civil communication (and help both sides to understand each others points, without crazy suspicions about malicious intentions) can be only based on mutual acceptance. Till joerg_rw's, I haven't seen Board or Council member refusing to accept my attempts on bringing discussion back to cooperation tracks.
Could Council internally consult and present here a consistent view on that matter?
If it is really how at least one conflicting body see my volunteering and don't like it, I'll humbly leave you to continue your mutual - yet pointless - bashing, in peace.
/Estel
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2013-04-16
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2013-04-16
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#80
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I believe the unofficial "official" bod update should be removed immediately from the hildon foundation website.
Please get on with making the mcc=hfc and elections for both bod and hfc/mcc already.
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