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2012-10-21 , 09:01
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#941
Originally Posted by freemangordon View Post
I would really like if you try to be a little bit more informative when describing your problems. "...something with..." don't help much trying to find what is going on and why you are the only one amongst more than 400 users having that "freeze" problem.

@Estel - I need dmesg and syslog after the restart, not at the time of the "freeze"
freemnangordon why don't you add step by step troubleshooting guide with expected output in the first post? it would save you a lot of time and frustration (I guess?) by not having to repeat yourself...

I'm sure it would benefit and educate a lot of less experienced users (including me) in dealing with any problems they may encounter with thumb CSSU.

Personally I had no problems with thumb so far and I'm glad I have installed it. Thanks
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2012-10-21 , 14:50
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#942
Originally Posted by sEKI View Post
freemnangordon why don't you add step by step troubleshooting guide with expected output in the first post? it would save you a lot of time and frustration (I guess?) by not having to repeat yourself...

I'm sure it would benefit and educate a lot of less experienced users (including me) in dealing with any problems they may encounter with thumb CSSU.
Wild guess - probably, he expected, that such experimental stuff will be installed only by people that know already, hot to report problems properly (or how to ask about how to report properly, before reporting ).

Still, at current state, CSSU-Thumb is - in practice - CSSU testing (and cssu-testing is cssu-stable, due to various ambient conditions, like way CSSU-mainline is maintained, etc - out of topic here), and, frankly, we have "stable" i thread title here.

While I know that this doesn't mean "c'mon here and install it right now, everyone!", it's natural, that everyone want to experience thumb2's and upgraded compiler's benefits.

So, summing it up, I agree, that in current conditions, adding mandatory lecture about proper reporting of problems, could be beneficial. Some would read it, for others, it would be enough to post link as a reply (instead of repeating self over and over), and who knows, maybe other projects would link to those instructions too...

/Estel

// Edit

I planned to jump into writing such tutorial right now, but, as my comment on timeline of syslog/dmesg output shows, my "expertise" on the matter, may be not up to the task. I wouldn't like to cause much trouble/confusion by messing something up, that's why I think it would be better, if freemangordon would write such guidelines himself. I'll gladly pack it, then, into wiki page.
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@freemangordon

My neighbor from Sofia, last night do my reflash duty and everything works nice and smooth.

As a long time Linux user on desktop I don`t have a clue whats go wrong on my device, i`m shure that doing everything here by the book. but who knows...
 

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Originally Posted by Estel View Post
Wild guess - probably, he expected, that such experimental stuff will be installed only by people that know already, hot to report problems properly (or how to ask about how to report properly, before reporting ).

Still, at current state, CSSU-Thumb is - in practice - CSSU testing (and cssu-testing is cssu-stable, due to various ambient conditions, like way CSSU-mainline is maintained, etc - out of topic here), and, frankly, we have "stable" i thread title here.

While I know that this doesn't mean "c'mon here and install it right now, everyone!", it's natural, that everyone want to experience thumb2's and upgraded compiler's benefits.

So, summing it up, I agree, that in current conditions, adding mandatory lecture about proper reporting of problems, could be beneficial. Some would read it, for others, it would be enough to post link as a reply (instead of repeating self over and over), and who knows, maybe other projects would link to those instructions too...

/Estel

// Edit

I planned to jump into writing such tutorial right now, but, as my comment on timeline of syslog/dmesg output shows, my "expertise" on the matter, may be not up to the task. I wouldn't like to cause much trouble/confusion by messing something up, that's why I think it would be better, if freemangordon would write such guidelines himself. I'll gladly pack it, then, into wiki page.
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Just reading back...I am seeing devel this, apt-get that.

WTF is wrong with you people?
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I clicked on the install link on the first page. It added the repos. I ran the enabler then it opened the app manager. Then to install thumb it says that I need nokia pc suie to install. Is there another way to install thumb without using nokia pc suite?
 
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Originally Posted by n900d-i-y View Post
I clicked on the install link on the first page. It added the repos. I ran the enabler then it opened the app manager. Then to install thumb it says that I need nokia pc suie to install. Is there another way to install thumb without using nokia pc suite?
http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Installation_FAQ
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Originally Posted by freemangordon View Post
http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Installation_FAQ
Hi, Im probably gonna sound stupid but is this what I need to do?

apt-get update
apt-get install mp-fremantle-community-pr
 

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Originally Posted by n900d-i-y View Post
I clicked on the install link on the first page. It added the repos. I ran the enabler then it opened the app manager. Then to install thumb it says that I need nokia pc suie to install. Is there another way to install thumb without using nokia pc suite?
Yeah, but you just have to do it yourself...

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85371

Originally Posted by mrsellout
When you try to upgrade using the Application Manager and you get the "use Nokia PC Suite" error you might be able to press on the "details" button and there might be a "problems" button where there should be more information about the issue.
 

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#950
Originally Posted by n900d-i-y View Post
Hi, Im probably gonna sound stupid but is this what I need to do?

apt-get update
apt-get install mp-fremantle-community-pr
Did you read what's written on the page I linked? Did you follow the instructions there? The first Q/A there is "Q: I can't update, as I get the message: TO UPDATE YOUR DEVICE TO THIS VERSION OF THE OPERATING SYSTEM YOU MUST USE NOKIA PC SUITE ON YOUR PC..."

Meh.

Check "Problems" tab in application manager, and if you cannot sort why you cannot install CSSU-thumb, post what's written there.
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