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2015-01-08
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So, after reading the above success stories I decided that, as a good starting point for 2015, I would install CSSU thumb on my primary device.
I did it yesterday. It was a bit of a mess because HAM didn't actually do anything other than having apt-worker do whatever it thinks it was doing until it stopped. I never got the "Community SSU" icon in the apps menu.
In the end I started installing some of the many packages proposed by apt-get upgrade until I felt confident enough to let apt-get upgrade everything, which it did. Rebooting worked fine, which kinda surpised me, if I'm honest.
I'm at a point where apt-get upgrade doesn't want to do anything (good), but the meta-package mp-fremantle-community-pr is not installed. If I wanted to install it (which I don't), I would get:
busybox-symlinks-procps (wants to remove procps, so no way).
community-ssu-enabler (I guess this is the "icon" referred to above)
hildon-welcome (don't want it)
libcpaboutcssu (what's this?)
libqt4-* (unnecessary packages unless something depends on them)
maemo-optify-runonce (be gone, and stay there forever)
modest-home-applet (don't want it)
pulseaudio-esound-compat (don't want it)
qtm-maemo-metapackage (as long as noone depends on it, I don't want it).
If there's a good reason why any of the above should be installed, I'd like to know.
Other than that, CSSU thumb works fine and it does feel snappier (but this may be just because I let apt-get replace by transitions.ini with the maintainer package).
The only negative effect possibly directly linked to CSSU is that my first alarm this morning stopped after a second or two without me having touched the stop or snooze button. I had experienced this in the past, but not for a long time. I'll keep an eye on it though.
[EDIT] To clarify: it auto-snoozed. Meaning 10 min later my second alarm (which happens to be 10 minutes after the first alarm) popped-up OK and when I closed it the first alarm (the "auto-snoozed" one) popped-up.
Oh, and for the rotation I had to enable the accelerometer module which I had disabled in MCE a long time ago. Now my desktop rotates. I have to learn how to deactivate that
Cheers, and thanks CSSU people.
I did it yesterday. It was a bit of a mess because HAM didn't actually do anything other than having apt-worker do whatever it thinks it was doing until it stopped. I never got the "Community SSU" icon in the apps menu.
In the end I started installing some of the many packages proposed by apt-get upgrade until I felt confident enough to let apt-get upgrade everything, which it did. Rebooting worked fine, which kinda surpised me, if I'm honest.
I'm at a point where apt-get upgrade doesn't want to do anything (good), but the meta-package mp-fremantle-community-pr is not installed. If I wanted to install it (which I don't), I would get:
busybox-symlinks-procps (wants to remove procps, so no way).
community-ssu-enabler (I guess this is the "icon" referred to above)
hildon-welcome (don't want it)
libcpaboutcssu (what's this?)
libqt4-* (unnecessary packages unless something depends on them)
maemo-optify-runonce (be gone, and stay there forever)
modest-home-applet (don't want it)
pulseaudio-esound-compat (don't want it)
qtm-maemo-metapackage (as long as noone depends on it, I don't want it).
If there's a good reason why any of the above should be installed, I'd like to know.
Other than that, CSSU thumb works fine and it does feel snappier (but this may be just because I let apt-get replace by transitions.ini with the maintainer package).
The only negative effect possibly directly linked to CSSU is that my first alarm this morning stopped after a second or two without me having touched the stop or snooze button. I had experienced this in the past, but not for a long time. I'll keep an eye on it though.
[EDIT] To clarify: it auto-snoozed. Meaning 10 min later my second alarm (which happens to be 10 minutes after the first alarm) popped-up OK and when I closed it the first alarm (the "auto-snoozed" one) popped-up.
Oh, and for the rotation I had to enable the accelerometer module which I had disabled in MCE a long time ago. Now my desktop rotates. I have to learn how to deactivate that
Cheers, and thanks CSSU people.
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2015-01-08
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Originally Posted by reinob
Good man!
So, after reading the above success stories I decided that, as a good starting point for 2015, I would install CSSU thumb on my primary device.
I'm at a point where apt-get upgrade doesn't want to do anything (good), but the meta-package mp-fremantle-community-pr is not installed.
BTW, isn't apt-get upgrade supposed to be discouraged? I must say I've never used in myself on my N900.
If I wanted to install it (which I don't), I would get:
busybox-symlinks-procps (wants to remove procps, so no way).
community-ssu-enabler (I guess this is the "icon" referred to above)
hildon-welcome (don't want it)
libcpaboutcssu (what's this?)
libqt4-* (unnecessary packages unless something depends on them)
maemo-optify-runonce (be gone, and stay there forever)
modest-home-applet (don't want it)
pulseaudio-esound-compat (don't want it)
qtm-maemo-metapackage (as long as noone depends on it, I don't want it).
The only negative effect possibly directly linked to CSSU is that my first alarm this morning stopped after a second or two without me having touched the stop or snooze button. I had experienced this in the past, but not for a long time. I'll keep an eye on it though.
Oh, and for the rotation I had to enable the accelerometer module which I had disabled in MCE a long time ago. Now my desktop rotates. I have to learn how to deactivate that
If you want to lock in portrait, tough luck. But why on earth would you want to do that?
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2015-01-08
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Obviously HAM is "recommended", however, you will find that apt-get dist-upgrade is the command if you want to completely cause chaos.
BTW, isn't apt-get upgrade supposed to be discouraged? I must say I've never used in myself on my N900.
Now you are on thumb you should have the patched super fast version of HAM.
Stock HAM is known to sit for ages and then sometimes resolve nothing until a second pass.
Originally Posted by pichlo
You can install the applet, only useful if you want to lock and unlock on the fly.
Install status-area-orientationlock-applet. This will add an entry to your system menu. Use it to lock your phone in landscape. Uninstall status-area-orientationlock-applet. Job done.
If you want to lock in portrait, tough luck. But why on earth would you want to do that?
If you want it locked without installing an applet there are gconftools for that.
http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features
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Originally Posted by pichlo
No, it's apt-get dist-upgrade that is discouraged (and indeed want to do catastrophic mess, even on my device). As for apt-get upgrade, I'm using it all the time without any problems - just, like with EVERYTHING you install, keep and eye on what it want to do before confirming (especially, what it want to remove). Same apply to selective packages installation, so nothing new here.
BTW, isn't apt-get upgrade supposed to be discouraged? I must say I've never used in myself on my N900.
The apt-get upgrade "discouraging" was another popular FUD myth being spread by infamous joerg at some point - like most other things said by that guy, it wasn't based on any merit nor logic. At least not more than "depreciating" of FAM or apt-get itself.
As for libqt4-* things, I'm not sure if they're not required for some parts of CSSU to work (albeit, in such case, something else than metapackage should depend on it, right?). CSSU people, any comment on why it's part of metapackage? I'm curious, too.
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2015-01-08
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Thanks. The vague "some kind of troubles" is what I dislike. But this is most likely a consequence of the all-reaching meta-package. I think I've said enough times that one goal of CSSU could be adding proper dependencies where they are missing, so that we can safely remove the metapackage without the next autoremove wiping the system..
You are going to get some kind of troubles if you messed with your preinstalled packages like, for example, in this thread. I would expect a man of your calibre to know how to deal with it
BTW, isn't apt-get upgrade supposed to be discouraged? I must say I've never used in myself on my N900.
dist-upgrade is discouraged, but there should no reason for this.
As an example, if I were to do dist-upgrade now I would get { debianutils, diffmo, grep-gnu } at the expense of removing my whole system because of debianutils. It's a fvcked up world
Fully agree with all of the above. You are right, community-ssu-enabler is the icon and should go away after a successful installation (the package remains though). The libcpaboutcssu package is what displays the CSSU version info in Settings. I don't have them either and can live quite happily without them.
Install status-area-orientationlock-applet. This will add an entry to your system menu. Use it to lock your phone in landscape. Uninstall status-area-orientationlock-applet. Job done.
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2015-01-08
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Originally Posted by Estel
Thanks for useful part of your message.
(informative part) + (unneeded personal attack)
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2015-01-08
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Originally Posted by Estel
That's the one I meant! Sorry about the utter nonsense I splattered above. I've even had my morning coffee so cannot use that as an excuse
No, it's apt-get dist-upgrade that is discouraged
Originally Posted by reinob
Yes, that and the fact that Maemo dependencies are totally messed up. But you know that already. If you've removed certain packages manually, you will need to upgrade to Thumb also manually. Just like you did.
Thanks. The vague "some kind of troubles" is what I dislike. But this is most likely a consequence of the all-reaching meta-package.
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2015-01-12
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which os had good battery life? maemo default, maemo thumb or maemo stable? please suggest
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