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2009-03-19
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#181
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
But since both nokia and the third parties already have our money, they won't really care.
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2009-03-19
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It would be very helpful if someone posted some way of doing what sjgadsby suggests. How would we go about contacting these folks and showing our support?
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2009-03-19
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Originally Posted by luca
Since Skype, for example, gives away their client and sells service for it, wouldn't they have at least a slightly higher potential for profit from Mer users by having the client on the platform then by not?
But since both nokia and the third parties already have our money, they won't really care.
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2009-03-19
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
They distribute the binary themselves, anyway, so there isn't actually a licensing issue with Skype.
Since Skype, for example, gives away their client and sells service for it, wouldn't they have at least a slightly higher potential for profit from Mer users by having the client on the platform then by not?
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2009-03-19
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Originally Posted by qole
Conventionally, you would set up a non-profit (Mer Foundation, etc.). Contacting people like Skype is easy if you are professional about it. You wouldn't have to show "support"; the Mer Foundation would be in a position to directly license from Skype (or whomever).
It would be very helpful if someone posted some way of doing what sjgadsby suggests. How would we go about contacting these folks and showing our support?
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2009-03-19
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
I didn't accuse Nokia of not really helping much, nor did I blame them for lack of progress. I said "cautious optimisim". Try reading my statements (and statements of others) without any predilection.
Your accusation seemed to be that Nokia wasn't really helping much, giving 3rd-party stuff as an example. In the end, the decision to allow distribution of the licensed 3rd-party components doesn't belong to Nokia, it belongs to the owners of those 3rd-party components. Nokia's doing what it can to make it happen, but any lack of progress isn't to be blamed on Nokia (as you did).
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2009-03-19
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Originally Posted by SD69
Perhaps GA should have used the word "imply" instead of "accuse".
I didn't accuse Nokia of not really helping much, nor did I blame them for lack of progress. I said "cautious optimisim". Try reading my statements (and statements of others) without any predilection.
The bottom line is whatever rights Nokia negotiated for the use of third party code are not transferable.
BTW dude,
Originally Posted by SD69
???and statements of others
Who are you speaking for?
Originally Posted by SD69
Are you also a Lawyer? Have you ever tried to negotiate with a corporation for code on behalf of a not for profit or non profit organization having 0 (zero) assets? How did that work out for you?Conventionally, you would set up a non-profit (Mer Foundation, etc.). Contacting people like Skype is easy if you are professional about it.
Just wondering.
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2009-03-19
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Well one can always hope that a presumed future Skype-for-Fremantle would run as-is on Mer-for-omap2. At least that's the sort of thing I'm hoping for (and not just for the closed source stuff).
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2009-03-19
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Unless it is compiled with optimizations for the newer processor...
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2009-03-19
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Originally Posted by Bundyo
There was no new relase since December 2007 and nothing on their forums and bugtrackers suggesting the Maemo port is alive. It seems they had a deal with nokia to provide skype for the N810 and that they did, and not an inch more. They did not manage even say a 'sorry' or 'working on it' for the appaling lack of features (and the faulty ones). So, no messages while talking, no DTMF tones, no file transfer, no video, no cpu idle when idling, and the list goes on... After such a track record, optimizations for a new processor would be nothing short of a miracle (for me).
Unless it is compiled with optimizations for the newer processor...