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2015-09-08
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#102
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Patchidea:
The Pulldown menu with our 3 (or 7) apps is only visible if we are in locked screen.... why not in app cards view?
another one:
if we stay in app card view, swipe from left to right we landing to events view.... why not swipe from right to left and we get the settings page with our fav toggles, brightness and more
and one more:
if we are in locked screen, there is only a pulldown menu... here we can put a pullup menu and open the settings page too.
The Pulldown menu with our 3 (or 7) apps is only visible if we are in locked screen.... why not in app cards view?
another one:
if we stay in app card view, swipe from left to right we landing to events view.... why not swipe from right to left and we get the settings page with our fav toggles, brightness and more
and one more:
if we are in locked screen, there is only a pulldown menu... here we can put a pullup menu and open the settings page too.
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2015-09-08
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#103
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Awesome to have 2.0 ui in action now 
I really love the progression made.
- double tap to wake up recognized faster taps and works better, fade in is beautifull.
- recognition of "top down swipe" to bring the ambiance switcher/locker has improved to me.
- browser is sped up by ~50%
- The fading notifications on top look gorgeous!
- Multitasking use advanced through app-switcher always being available but regressed by not being able to have notificationw with one swipe. (configurable via settings thou)
- I do reallize that i missed a taskbar/signal icons all the time. Fine to have it now.
- Appdrawer and ambiance switcher available from Lockscreen is a bliss!
- Pushing the appdrawer away like an app is improving the flow to me.
- Android apps start a little slower sometimes but seem more responsive when started up
But what i really missconcepted was the function of the ambiance switcher / locker. To me it screams to be a giant pulley menu that locks or switches ambiance instantly when released at corresponding scroll position, not waiting for an extra button press please!
EDIT, Just found the gesture settings and activated both.
Now it is perfect to me... Close app from top swipe, switch to home from right, notifcations from left, apps from bottom. consistantly, always. i love it, thanks Jolla.
Last edited by mosen; 2015-09-08 at 12:12.
I really love the progression made.
- double tap to wake up recognized faster taps and works better, fade in is beautifull.
- recognition of "top down swipe" to bring the ambiance switcher/locker has improved to me.
- browser is sped up by ~50%
- The fading notifications on top look gorgeous!
- Multitasking use advanced through app-switcher always being available but regressed by not being able to have notificationw with one swipe. (configurable via settings thou
)- I do reallize that i missed a taskbar/signal icons all the time. Fine to have it now.
- Appdrawer and ambiance switcher available from Lockscreen is a bliss!
- Pushing the appdrawer away like an app is improving the flow to me.
- Android apps start a little slower sometimes but seem more responsive when started up
But what i really missconcepted was the function of the ambiance switcher / locker. To me it screams to be a giant pulley menu that locks or switches ambiance instantly when released at corresponding scroll position, not waiting for an extra button press please!
EDIT, Just found the gesture settings and activated both.
Now it is perfect to me... Close app from top swipe, switch to home from right, notifcations from left, apps from bottom. consistantly, always. i love it, thanks Jolla.
Last edited by mosen; 2015-09-08 at 12:12.
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2015-09-08
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#104
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hmm, I upgraded and I like the new UX compared to the previous version, I find it more harmattan/swipe-ui like (:
However, there are certain things I would like it to be changed/configurable.
1. I wish I could do a pinch-to-zoom in task view so it is possible to have bigger cards when there are more than 4 tasks (since we can now scroll through the cards so having it is nice.
2. tasks are not sorted in last-recently-used order, which is quite troublesome IMHO :S
3. why move ambiance to settings?!
4. speaking of ambiance, erm, can we have the switcher (edge scroll from top) have behaviour similar to pulley menu? so I don't have to do an extra click to the lock icon/entry
I know there are patches for 1 and 4, but I still hope it is revised when 1.2.x is finally released (2 months from now?).
However, there are certain things I would like it to be changed/configurable.
1. I wish I could do a pinch-to-zoom in task view so it is possible to have bigger cards when there are more than 4 tasks (since we can now scroll through the cards so having it is nice.
2. tasks are not sorted in last-recently-used order, which is quite troublesome IMHO :S
3. why move ambiance to settings?!
4. speaking of ambiance, erm, can we have the switcher (edge scroll from top) have behaviour similar to pulley menu? so I don't have to do an extra click to the lock icon/entry
I know there are patches for 1 and 4, but I still hope it is revised when 1.2.x is finally released (2 months from now?).
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2015-09-08
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#105
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but new version isnt released for early adopters yet...or i miss somethg? how to update?
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2015-09-08
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#106
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Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt
- make sure your device got btrfs balanced recently
how to update?
- disable all openrepos
- disable all patches
Then you might concider to ssh into your jolla, become root and set your ssu release to 1.1.9.28. Than do a version --dup to update and reboot afterwards
Totally at your own risc of cause
Originally Posted by Jeffrey04
Exactly what i also want
4. speaking of ambiance, erm, can we have the switcher (edge scroll from top) have behaviour similar to pulley menu? so I don't have to do an extra click to the lock icon/entry
Took the time and filed a request @ TJC
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2015-09-08
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Originally Posted by mosen
I think it's terrible as you can't immediately check time and have to wait LONG for the clock to appear... Usability over visual fidelity any day of the year. I absolutely hate this change and hope they speed it up or give an option to remove the fade in...
- double tap to wake up recognized faster taps and works better, fade in is beautifull.
But what i really missconcepted was the function of the ambiance switcher / locker. To me it screams to be a giant pulley menu that locks or switches ambiance instantly when released at corresponding scroll position, not waiting for an extra button press please!
Even worse, when I'm working, the wait time looks so long as if I was reading a message rather than just checking time. Gives the impression I'm slacking on work.
Pulley menu for lock/ambiences wouldn't work if you have more than 4 and they stack in the bottom.
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2015-09-08
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#108
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Originally Posted by parasemic
You mean, they made it even worse than it is now? I find faffing around with the peek gesture just to check the time so cumbersome (compared to having a tiny status bar N900 or N9 style) that I found TOHOLED an absolutely invaluable piece of kit. I thought that I would put it in the drawer as soon as I receive my TOHKBD but after a week of trying, I ended up the other way around. I can live without a hardware keyboard if I try hard enough but not having a constant and immediate access to the vital information such as the current time, battery level and signal strength would be a show-stopper.
I think it's terrible as you can't immediately check time and have to wait LONG for the clock to appear...
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2015-09-08
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@parasemic
I ment the double click ratio being recognized has increased. I can double tap much faster now and still unlock where i had problems on previous releases and needed to tap again slower. thats gone and totally reliable now.
The clock fades in too late occasionally, you are right.
But most of the time the clock is presented first, then the rest of the lockscreen fades in underneath it, matching your wanted behaviour.
Everything else stays the same. If you do not want to use the pulley, just do not hold the thumb while expanding the shutter drawer but let it go or even flick in motion. Also, if you go over the fifth selectable item, e.g. leave the screen on the bottom (You anyway need to do this to select other ambiances than the first four), the pulley will also disapear. It is no change in existing functions, only pulley select for the first five items on top of that IF you keep pressed and aim slowly.
The feature is so obvious to me, it totally feels awkward to use the current drawer and not hear the pulley click sound and just let go to select...
I ment the double click ratio being recognized has increased. I can double tap much faster now and still unlock where i had problems on previous releases and needed to tap again slower. thats gone and totally reliable now.
The clock fades in too late occasionally, you are right.
But most of the time the clock is presented first, then the rest of the lockscreen fades in underneath it, matching your wanted behaviour.
Originally Posted by parasemic
As i wrote in the TJC feature request, it does not matter how many ambiances are in the drawer. Only the first 5 items (including lock-device) that completely fill the screen anyway should be pulley items.
Pulley menu for lock/ambiences wouldn't work if you have more than 4 and they stack in the bottom.
Everything else stays the same. If you do not want to use the pulley, just do not hold the thumb while expanding the shutter drawer but let it go or even flick in motion. Also, if you go over the fifth selectable item, e.g. leave the screen on the bottom (You anyway need to do this to select other ambiances than the first four), the pulley will also disapear. It is no change in existing functions, only pulley select for the first five items on top of that IF you keep pressed and aim slowly.
The feature is so obvious to me, it totally feels awkward to use the current drawer and not hear the pulley click sound and just let go to select...
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2015-09-08
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#110
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Originally Posted by parasemic
What happened to the 'LPM'/Glance Screen on Sailfish OS 2.0? Is this feature still working if you activate(d) it via terminal?
I think it's terrible as you can't immediately check time and have to wait LONG for the clock to appear...
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