anyone agrees with me?

IMHO a relocation should get the infrastructure and stuff to a place that is not dependent on Nokia. Given Nokia's rapid decline, I don't have much faith in servers dependent on Nokia in any way.

AbillUK is here so we can add him to the ignorelist....

Would it be possible for someone to check the amount needed to host this site for a year and maybe set up a collection form plus collection bar. Ok the form and the bar could wait for official statement, but the calculation of cost could be done.

EDIT:What is the cost today, anyone? Reggie maybe?

As Kates already pointed out it seems Qt is "in the same budget" so yes ḿy guess is QT is cut down slow inside Nokia. But then again Qt has support outside Nokia too (by companys)

The Qt Project discussion is a different one, indeed. Being discussed already at the Qt Project.

Quim is looking for the council to create some specific proposals for what they would like to achieve.

Personally, my priorities for a post-Nokia Maemo environment are (in descending order) device software distribution (and flashers, etc), nokia repositories (device software and development), documentation, community respositories, mailing lists, forum, wiki. The reasons for that are (i) we have to keep the devices usable as a top priority, (ii) tools for developers are important to allow future maintenance and enhancement, (iii) a community needs a communication infrastructure. Autobuilders would be nice but are certainly not critical and are likely to be very tough to maintain, and possibly expensive. Other things like promotion, community testing, application search tools, etc are lower priority still.

I wonder if we should abandon "maemo.org" as a hostname? In particular, the next release of the CSSU could force all references to "maemo.org" to be looked up as (say) "maemocommunity.org".

This would allow us to walk away from supporting all the Nokia customers who were not willing to upgrade to the CSSU -- they would be Nokia's problem, to do with as they wished (support, drop support, whatever). This would mean a much lower load on new servers (although it would increase over time, presumably, as Nokia dropped support and some small proportion of those people heard about the community and switched to the CSSU).

This would be a forced move to the CSSU.

I use my N900 without CSSU because I did not have the need up to now. I rarely see the point of such forced movements.
But maybe you have some very strong arguments for such a change?

In the case of such a movement the CSSU and the authors of the CSSU should give guarantees and I am not sure if this is possible (otoh I am not sure if Nokia will do this in the furure :-/ ).

Werent OpenMoko.org in a similar situation when FIC closed down ?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page is still here

Maybe we should contact them to know how they organized themselves ?

BTW, I also added that page http://elinux.org/Maemo

LOL I remember it wasn't the best looking device out there, but I didn't remember it was that but ugly