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Told them back in the days. Its all about services. Stuff that help users. If not, just refund and ship sailfish to russia.

A new update imminent or what?
Fingers crossed they will release the update tomorrow!
 

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Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
Stuff that help users.
Sailfish has already helped me tremendously. By not having Whatsit (or whatever it is called). I could tell my boss with clear conscience to get stuffed
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Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
Sailfish has already helped me tremendously. By not having Whatsit (or whatever it is called). I could tell my boss with clear conscience to get stuffed
Sure. Always one or three can come up with a random use case. But cars are no longer cars. Its services. Still people say they are buying a car for driving when day actually will buy it for the services.
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Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
Sure. Always one or three can come up with a random use case. But cars are no longer cars. Its services. Still people say they are buying a car for driving when day actually will buy it for the services.
A very good example.
My new(er) BMW is actually asking me every week for service!
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Originally Posted by peterleinchen View Post
A very good example.
My new(er) BMW is actually asking me every week for service!
Brilliant!
Expected if you are going for that brand
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Originally Posted by peterleinchen View Post
My new(er) BMW is actually asking me every week for service!
Funny you should say that. So does my (oldish) VW. It's been saying "service now" for nearly two weeks. I've been gleefully ignoring it
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Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
Sailfish has already helped me tremendously. By not having Whatsit (or whatever it is called). I could tell my boss with clear conscience to get stuffed
Sure. Always one or three can come up with a random use case.
Not so fast, davey. I have used exactly the same excuse for not joining to a huitsapp group I was pressurized into.

Another good one I have used is, "it's a company phone and I am not allowed to install spyware on it, sorry, it's a company policy"
 

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Another good one I have used is, "it's a company phone and I am not allowed to install spyware on it, sorry, it's a company policy"
And that is the most important argument after May, 25th (the new European DSGVO).
That not only disallows but forbids to share other people's data (phonebook entries) without their consent! This is valid for company phones with data of other business people (I guess not for private use).
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GDPR is not a valid use case In this particular discussion since policies or rules should handle that. Not the services it self.

Side note:
Still unknown how this will work out in reality. Increased awareness of privacy, yes and implemented solutions, yes. But we have too many corner cases in the world yet

Just take tmo as an example. Do I have the right to be forgotten. Possibly. Might be easy to remove an account. But what about all post where the user was quoted?
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Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
Just take tmo as an example. Do I have the right to be forgotten. Possibly. Might be easy to remove an account. But what about all post where the user was quoted?
Yes, as a matter of fact we are GDPR compliant. The announcement is still draft and not published but as we reviewed our policies there was nothing that we'd need to change

And the law itself does not mandate for us to advertice compliance, just be complient. This is a mistake so many companies are making, spamming their users with messages about GDPR...

As for the point you raised; the account removal does not cause removal of quoted or referred postings but that is also OK by GDPR; The article 17 "right of erasure" has restriction clause in article 23 (i) which states that it can be mitigated if it is necessary for "the protection of the data subject or the rights and freedoms of others"

Hence protecting the freedom of speech of other users has priority here.
 

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