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#21
Good luck with that.


There is no one who will cater to your specific demands for what are essentially the specs for 3 unique prototypes...at the price you are quoting. It ain't happening.


You will either have to compromise on your demands and find either a project that comes close to what you want
or a current device being offered that comes close ....

or

If you insist on your spec list and prices and demands...
Then you are going to be one busy fella trying to find and convince the hundreds ...most likely thousands of investors / buyers to see the logic of what you demand...and join you....
and of course I am sure they won't have their own set of wants that will intrude on your plans.


if you didn't put the price tags on...then with unlimited funds available I am sure someone could make your device for you...
but
I think a manufacturer would either dismiss you or laugh.
demands of a manufacturer with the only option being a choice between 3 price tags that don't come close to the prototype cost ....and with no funding? no down payment ? no deposit?
You risk nothing...
you back the venture with nothing...
perhaps "20 or 50 with a little discount on the final product, but I will not preorder."

the maker assumes all the costs ...
all the risk upfront..
in your scenario...

Just for a running current example...
look how hard it was to gather enough people to start the neo900 project...
that took a long time...
a lot of.
and then there is the "universal constant" ..
.the fewer investors...
the fewer the units in production the more expensive to build...
the more ...the cheaper.
But everyone here knows all that fun stuff.

Personally I do enjoy seeing what others would like in a device...
and what they can afford as a price tag...
and I did enjoy seeing your wish list ...
and on the whole of it...I wouldn't mind half the stuff you also want...

but unless you build your dream device yourself ...
with the budget you have in mind...(who knows ?...you may get a lot of what you want in the prototype with your budget if you build it yourself...but frankly I doubt you will stay under budget ..)
....I must admit what your specific individual demands and requirements amount to is.. the smartphone version of Fantasy League Football.
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#22
I am well aware that these devices are wishful thinking, but one can dream.

At the moment I am running around with three devices in my pocket, as you may have guessed, N900, N808 and N9.
Each has its own funtions which I wouldn't want to miss.

N808: Really good camera and equally good sound recording/speaker
N9: E-Book reader, offline navigation, stargazing (OLED, endless battery life)
N900: Portable micro laptop, phone

These together cost currently around 320
(N808: 180, N9: 80, N900 60)
as I bought some of them as they where new, I paid ~700 in total.
And the only inconvenience is that they use a little bit more pocket space than a single device.

Yes I know that projects like the Neo900 need much money, and I appreciate their effort.
But as good as their intentions are and as happy as I would be having the product,
I do not have as much money as I would need to support all this.
330 for a Pyra (which would only replace the N900 and is bigger)
480 for a Neo900 (which would only replace the N900)
and more for other projects all bound and maybe wasted.
(Possible wasted reasons:
Device arrives after my death,
device arrives after I have replaced original with a device better than crowdfunded device,
makers realize this is over their head and quit,
scam from start, ...)

So my option is to wait till somebody notices the market niche
(and yes they are market niches, 808 Pureview and N9 sold extremely well, the N900 also not bad)
and to buy replacements or better devices which serve the purpose of one or two of my current devices.

Meanwhile I will state my desire for devices like these, and of course I state my perfect device.
And I will donate some time and some money to preserve the great community and to support new Ideas.
I will also reward successful projects, for example I will likely buy a Pyra a few months after it really becomes available.

I would also consider supporting development via patreon, but I won't pay big sums in advance.
 

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#23
Ach...
I'm not meaning to come down hard on you ...
I am just seeing this general malaise spread throughout the forum...
With so many now talking about the perfect device...or what may suffice...or arguing about specifics...
It is informative...yes..
But I am finding it all a case of "pining for the fjords " ....with little actual movement past talk....
Rather than doing something about it...
I want action!
Purpose!.
Direction...!
Michael Bay explosions (budget allowing)
Not more of the same dialogue we have been having in the forum for the past...how many years now? ...
Sigh....
It is becoming not only depressing...but maddening talk about the same thing ....with no conclusion in sight...
Gadzooks we need a device bad!
We'll all go mad if we don't get one!
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-1 no telephony (perfect for permanent set-up as mini-pc with one of my monitors)
half a neo900 pre- "bought"....due for production any day now.


PIMP MY N8X0
Everything you need tightly explained in layman's terms ..in an easy to understand format.. and a video walkthrough to boot.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567

AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
 

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#24
Originally Posted by Macros View Post
I am well aware that these devices are wishful thinking, but one can dream.

At the moment I am running around with three devices in my pocket, as you may have guessed, N900, N808 and N9.
Each has its own funtions which I wouldn't want to miss.

N808: Really good camera and equally good sound recording/speaker
N9: E-Book reader, offline navigation, stargazing (OLED, endless battery life)
N900: Portable micro laptop, phone
...
True. That would be the perfect device (erm: 'wet dream')!
Something we missed from the N950?
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#25
Originally Posted by peterleinchen View Post
True. That would be the perfect device (erm: 'wet dream')!
Something we missed from the N950?
N9(50) had a decent camera but nothing compared to 808
 

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#26
If you were going to pick a design for a phone with hwkb which one would you choose? None of the above is also a choice, then make suggestion.

http://thedroidguy.com/2016/11/top-7...eyboards-87556
 

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#28
of the seven it is a toss up for me...second pick is droid 4 (for obvious reasons)
or
first pick is the photon q (screen real estate reasons...since it is comparable to the n8x0)

sigh...
but they are all getting on now in years...
and none have resistive screens...
but body wise ...those are my two pics
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-1 no telephony (perfect for permanent set-up as mini-pc with one of my monitors)
half a neo900 pre- "bought"....due for production any day now.


PIMP MY N8X0
Everything you need tightly explained in layman's terms ..in an easy to understand format.. and a video walkthrough to boot.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567

AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
 

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#29
Originally Posted by mscion View Post
If you were going to pick a design for a phone with hwkb which one would you choose? None of the above is also a choice, then make suggestion.

http://thedroidguy.com/2016/11/top-7...eyboards-87556
AFAIK none of those are to be found in finland....
 

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Originally Posted by mscion View Post
If you were going to pick a design for a phone with hwkb which one would you choose? None of the above is also a choice, then make suggestion.

http://thedroidguy.com/2016/11/top-7...eyboards-87556

HTC Universal
 

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