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mikecomputing	2011-07-27 , 18:26
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Originally Posted by ysss

Might want to consider pitting an unreleased device vs a year old device that's due for an upgrade within a couple of months.

Looks promising but my guess is first batches will not have it :-/

And I am unwillking wait for the damn device so I will buy ASAP :-/

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jalyst	2011-07-28 , 05:41
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^ How does it look promising?
I can't see how it proves anything.

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Lindegaard	2011-07-28 , 21:09
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but everywere it says that the N9 has 2.1 - so why would Nokia "lie" about it?

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mikecomputing	2011-07-28 , 21:18
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Originally Posted by jalyst

^ How does it look promising?
I can't see how it proves anything.

I didn't say it "confirmed" but the documets says "harmattan" but as I also said it maybe will not come on first batches of the device?

and maybe hw is there but the softwarestack for 4.0 is not implemented?

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abbra	2011-07-29 , 08:07
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If it was not implemented, Nokia wouldn't be able to get Bluetooth 4.0 certification. Simple as that.

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jalyst	2011-07-29 , 08:53
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing

I didn't say it "confirmed" but the documets says "harmattan" but as I also said it maybe will not come on first batches of the device?
and maybe hw is there but the softwarestack for 4.0 is not implemented?

But if it uses 1271/3x radio series from TI, then there's no way it could be using 1271/3L.

Did you not see that forum link DeeGee provided? (see posts #111 to 117)
It shows that we won't see phones using 1271/3L till the EOY, or maybe not till Q1.

So if the N9 is using the 1271/3x radio family...
It's hardware (this yr & maybe forever) will only support a/b/g/n + BT2.1.

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jalyst	2011-07-29 , 08:57
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Originally Posted by abbra

If it was not implemented, Nokia wouldn't be able to get Bluetooth 4.0 certification. Simple as that.

But does that page really prove that BT4.0 stack has been implemented & thereby certified?
And if it does, then the N9 must not be using a radio from the same family as the N950.

The N950 uses 1271/3 (not 1271/3L) as shown by recent dmesg dumps.
So it's only capable of a/b/g/n + BT2.1...

Whereas the N9 must use an entirely different radio that does have hardware support for BT4

Last edited by jalyst; 2011-07-29 at 09:39.

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zymo	2011-07-29 , 08:58
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an interesting post from zeh

Comparing the N950 with the N9:
First some comparison photos: click me
The OS is the same with the difference that on the N950 it does make sense to have the homescreens in landscape which is (for me) very nice because I'm using my mobile device 90% of the time in landscape.

When typing a short SMS like "okay" or "yes" I'm using the portrait VKB.
When typing a URL I'm using 50% of the time the landscape VKB.
When I'm typing something longer I'm 100% using the hardware keyboard.
I like it more because I can feel the buttons and I'm a lot faster.

The N950 feels very high quality, heavy, made from metal. The screen is not as curved as the one from the N9 but it is a little bit darker, so you won't see the screen as much as on the N9. The whole surface is complete dark black. If there is light around you, you'd think it is a AMOLED Clear Black Display.
The colors on the N9 are nicer, being a true AMOLED display.
But that also means that it does have a lesser amount of sub-pixels per pixel (because it is a pentile AMOLED screen) and if you look from close you can see that in direct comparision with the N950.
The N9 feels incredibly thin. Feels even thinner than the iPhone 4.
Also it feels very high quality but also very light.
The glass of the N9 is not as dark as the one from the N950.
The N9 does have Bluetooth 4 and NFC, the N950 does not have this.
If you drop a N9, you won't see the scratches as much as you see them on a N950. The N950 goes silver (metal) the N9 doesn't change the color.

I have the impression the the speaker of the N950 is a little bit louder than the speaker of the N9, but I'm not 100% sure. Have to check that later...

Any questions?