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2011-08-04
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Like that time all the good N7/8*0 developers and people moved on?
Times change. We can't force people to stay, if you think this community is in decadence then there is very little people can do about it.
Times change. We can't force people to stay, if you think this community is in decadence then there is very little people can do about it.
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2011-08-04
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If you and other people want (me too) to not see dead Maemo it is needed to keep up to date Extras application and maybe update open source SDK packages (from Debian or Ubuntu).
A lot of Maemo core packages is cloned from Debian (core libraries and core daemons), so the first step is update these packages.
Next step should be keep maintaing open source Hildon libraries (and application) - which is maybe under CSSU
And last to rewrite/replace closed source packages. I created list on wiki, see: http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages
Green packages has open source replecement.
A lot of Maemo core packages is cloned from Debian (core libraries and core daemons), so the first step is update these packages.
Next step should be keep maintaing open source Hildon libraries (and application) - which is maybe under CSSU
And last to rewrite/replace closed source packages. I created list on wiki, see: http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages
Green packages has open source replecement.
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2011-08-04
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I think this thread shoud be merged with this:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75174
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75174
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2011-08-04
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Originally Posted by pali
No i do not agree because this thread is specific and is about Maemo.org not just Maemo.
I think this thread shoud be merged with this:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75174
The thread your reffering to that you started is about Maemo5 and fremantle, totally different.
Last edited by abill_uk; 2011-08-04 at 16:56.
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2011-08-04
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someone will keep it up probably, but it would be nice if current administrators, should they plan to close shop, could provide some db dumps of forum, wiki, and bugzilla
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2011-08-04
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Technical question, sorry if it's too OT: If we are able to swap proprietary packages with OS clones, that's good. But could be probably build our own firmware images too, or are we stuck with flashing Nokia's rootfs / optfs images first, and update packages afterwards? I mean, we already have the custom kernel, so...
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2011-08-04
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Originally Posted by don_falcone
Very good post.
Technical question, sorry if it's too OT: If we are able to swap proprietary packages with OS clones, that's good. But could be probably build our own firmware images too, or are we stuck with flashing Nokia's rootfs / optfs images first, and update packages afterwards? I mean, we already have the custom kernel, so...
This is where the problem is stemming from, ie proprietry software that is an essential part of the Maemo os for the N900.
Nokia up to now have not released any closed parts of the os because of legal reasons, patents etc.
I have always wanted the code released from Nokia and have had many a discussion on here regarding this and no one came up with any solid answers, always pointing to legal problems over this.
So your idea of building our own firmware is great providing the community will allow this to happen, IF it could then just maybe Maemo.org can stand on it's own ground and mean something to Maemo providing of course if the funding can be raised.
Please keep the comments and idea's coming.
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2011-08-04
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Why not just move on? Nothing good will ever come from clinging to the past.
A good starting point is here. Even though it may not be 100% what you want, it is at least 90%, it is MeeGo, it is tablet, and it is open for everybody:
http://wetab.mobi/en/developers/
A good starting point is here. Even though it may not be 100% what you want, it is at least 90%, it is MeeGo, it is tablet, and it is open for everybody:
http://wetab.mobi/en/developers/
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2011-08-04
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
black hat here
Very good post.
This is where the problem is stemming from, ie proprietry software that is an essential part of the Maemo os for the N900.
Nokia up to now have not released any closed parts of the os because of legal reasons, patents etc.
I have always wanted the code released from Nokia and have had many a discussion on here regarding this and no one came up with any solid answers, always pointing to legal problems over this.
So your idea of building our own firmware is great providing the community will allow this to happen, IF it could then just maybe Maemo.org can stand on it's own ground and mean something to Maemo providing of course if the funding can be raised.
Please keep the comments and idea's coming.
if you are talking firmware, even open sourced one, you are binding yourself to a specific hardware (N900?).
that's no good.
need to find a way to either
- build a flash from a clean (open) source on the fly
- install Maemo like a normal Linux / GNU distro, directly from source (or an armel DVD / USB / image)
i'm too unfamiliar with mobile devices to see the exact solution, sorry
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For everyone who wants Maemo to survive then an input to this thread could very well get somewhere, we have lost many members who have moved on leaving Maemo.org to fend for itself, i feel survival is a real issue here for Maemo.org.