If you don't like how FX Tec are handling this particular project, you can adhere to your free market ideas and purchase a device from another vendor selling modern keyboard phone.


oh... wait.

The ultra satiated smartphone market nowadays works in a great way.
So much that we have not seen slider phones for ages.
What is happening here is going anticyclic straight up against the market and people complain the same standards as for large scale boring "suresells" are not 100% met.

EDIT:
To adress the elephant in the room.
I frankly do not even care if it was a misunderstanding and they planned to keep the price for existing preorders all along and just misworded or they make up the rules according to public "uproar".
Either way it shows they adapt rather quickly and try please as many people as possible.

The question for me remains if the critic you gave FX about sounding to harsh and pushing you could be said about posting aggressively here instead resolving things with them in person.
"Hello FX, your email sounds like my preorder price would increase if not paid in 7 days that is not what i expected (eg. still waiting for scandic layout) and i will drop out if so. Is that correct or a misunderstanding?"

Convince yourselves with whatever reasons or words make you feel comfy and cosy and help you sleep at night guys...

Just don't try to hand me a bowl of crap and then try to convince me it is tasty chocolate pudding ...

The price still jumped from the original stated price.
And the device isn't in your hands yet.
(God ...I am getting serious deja vu here...anyone else?)

And there is the possibility that the price may go up some more before it does get in your hands...
And there is as well the possibility ...however slim...that the start up will tank.
(As per the obviously biz 101 statement previously concerning low demand jacking up the costs of production for a smaller than expected number of interested end users...as well as unforeseen costs...making it more unpalatable or unaffordable for a given percentage of that stated small number of paying end users...and so must decline and hope for refunds...thereby ....unfortunately ...jacking the price still higher for the remaining devoted....and so it continues ....in an ugly cycle that can kill a start up ...before it is completed...very very easily....and in such cases it is possible that no one may be spared the increased cost...no matter the original statement that costs wouldn't go up...)

Harsh enough cost before...
As it is currently...
Over a 1000 CDN is a mad amount ..
even if the project succeeds..
With dubious supporrt and guarantees ...

Folks with more money than sense...
Folks with money to burn ...frankly...

Your choice... for the risks you wish to take.
Glad they aren't my choices.

Super unfair to attach those images to FX...
Who TF is handing you anything?
There is a buffet with 1000+ choices that do not fit your "need" and you stop and complain about the one dish you probably like but that does not meet your standard 100%.
You are not easy to please.

Mosen...
Super unfair?
I wasn't referring to FX project itself..
I was specifically referring to the justification by another here ...FOR the increase.
THAT 's "who TF"

As far as your purporting my "needs" ...
You haven't the foggiest what my "needs" are...
I haven't stipulated any "needs"...because I don't have any...
If by "needs" you are referring to my insistence that there be industry regulations on start ups...to protect consumers and investors...standards that are expected and enforced in every other arena of product or service for sale on the planet... EXCEPTING start ups...
Then I think you should perhaps look for different words to reflect it ...than... "my needs" ..

I am not interested in any device with any specs of any kind ..
And most definitely not interested in devices with surprise cost increases that jump ...to prices that question one's sanity in sticking it out...
Been there..
Done that..
Haven't been interested in that kind of nightmare for a long long time now...
I am quite content with what I have...
Thank you...

And btw ... just Who TF do you think you are speaking to?
You can shove all of what you just said straight up your sd card slot buddy.

Edit.
After thinking about it...I think that mosen didn't quite mean it as bad as I interpreted iit ......and I got right pissed about it.
So... mosen you can pull that out of your sd card slot anytime..
My apologies for that.

Sorry, maybe i misread and triggered much...
I am out for a while.

What concerns me more is that some people were already hesitating/complaining because of the initial pre-order price of the Pro1, which they considered on the high side for a phone with these specs (thereby neglecting the cost of the keyboard and small production). I do not think they were right because designing and producing such a phone in market like this is probably very difficult, but more people are going to hesitate before placing an order now. And I really hope that many people will keep buying this phone.

Who are we to tell which price is right to make benefits? F(x)tec surely knows better than any TMO member: they know the production cost, marketing costs, distribution costs, salary costs, and probably the projected after-sale costs. We don't know any of that, nor does shaihkritzer. We should be happy that the pre-order price was discounted rather than complain about the later increase. If the retail price to make all of this afloat is 778 USD, then be it. I just really want the phone to sell, and to sell in sufficient numbers to make it a lucrative move from F(x)tec. I want this company and the guys behind the whole idea to succeed, be rewarded for their work, and continue offering alternatives in the future, and if this requires a price above 778 USD, then I'm fine with it.

Endsormeans, 667€ incl. shipping to 720€ incl. shipping is not a 33% increase, it is an 8% increase. It is more than four times smaller an increase than what you are saying. Please, let's be fair and avoid spreading exaggerated information.

[Edit] Checking on a different computer now, the price still shows as 649+18€. This means the 1032 USD I saw earlier today were probably just due to my other computer not being geolocalized. The price I saw was probably the initial price for non-EU customers, which seems to be 8% more than the price for EU customers. In any case, not related to the price after pre-orders.

Boy what a cluster****.

Looking back at the original statement on the increase...
I was completely mistaken on that ...
I misread it.
You are correct on the 8% increase...

Discount my statement on that ...
I will correct those mentions ..

Hold on a sec.
WTF.

I am going to correct the mistaken " increase by a 1/3"
But I will be damned if I correct the pricing.
It may be 778 USD ...as far as everyone else is concerned.
But for Canadians...it is $1032.15
Well over a grand.
That I didn't get confused.
I just forgot to state that is the cost in my locale.
Which is an absolute break point for me for any handheld ...or start up risk.