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The Sad News first. I sold my N900 to fund my purchase of the new Samsung Galaxy S running Android 2.1

Its been 11 months with the N900 and I thought now was the best time to upgrade to a better spec phone and the apprantly leading OS Android.

First the phone design. I like the N900. Its prefect there are no buttons on the screen amd the minimal buttons on the outer shell.

Its great to use and its easier to type using the keyboard plus you can view the whole screen whilest typing.

Now the Galaxy S is a great design, really thin and you wont even know its in your pocket.

I dislike the touch sensitive buttons. When you hold the screen landscape, its so thin that you are bound to touch the edge or rather should I say the edge on the front panel which houses the touch sensitive button, which means you are more prone to press back when viewing something landscape.

Well the Phone itself is not the real problem, its the OS Android.

On the N900 I use multiple apps, Multitasking is so essential that today I understand why I usually favour Symbian over other OS's.

On the N900 (since football is back HOORAY!!) I listen to radio 5 live through the browser, whilst on messenger/messages and viewing the Forums on the web at the same time. I can also switch between them without any problem. When I dont need to view anything I turn off the sreen whilst all the APPS are running and I can listen to 5 live through the browser.

Now bringing the Spotlight onto Android. There is an update releasing soon called Android 2.2 which will bring FLASH 10.1

So at the moment lets look at Android 2.1

The web browser is lightning fast and a joy to use since all mapges instantly load fully. Now you can open multiple tabs but the user interface is not great.

There is Android Market which hosts loads of Apps.

Since there is no FLASH (coming in next update) you can view Youtube through an App.

Now I can view the videos fine but cannot switch to another app or even turn off the screen whlist expecting the Youtube App to be running.

There is No Native Multitasking, So if you want to switch from an App it will pause or stop the App to allow you to switch. You can hit the Home button which displays your last few Apps you used.

So I cannot listen to radio through browser with the screen turned off

If you download something using rapidshare etc and switch from the browser to anything else it will either pause or stop the download.

There is some multitasking, you can open up the Music player and another app. If you decide to switch from the other app which could be the browser then it will pause/stop the browser for you to switch to the Music Player. Multitasking is limited and Sucks.

You cannot even close down apps, you have to download a kill task app to do it.

In fact if you view about 20 pages in your browser then you need to click back 20 times for it to go to back to the start and eventually close.

Im waiting for the new update Android 2.2 but I doubt it will address themultitasking issue or any other issues which to me are a deal breaker.

If things dont improve I will go back to the N900 and Maemo.

Id like to hear your views on your experience with Android in comparison to Maemo and which one would you prefer.
 

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well first of all, next time you want android get nitdroid with full 2d/3d acceleration......
now your right, multitasking on the n900 is just bannanaz, its even better than multitasking on a windows pc!!! , but that android sounded horrible, are you serious ?? downloads stop ??? 500 mb of rams my *****, i mean multitasking is so sick on the n900, that i can play a music video in youtube and the same song in the media player at the same time, its ******ed but it feels damm good to have a device capable of doing that .
and pressing the back button 20 times........ u can't even close apps.......and tons of other things ( video calling, microB, media capabilities, qwerty keyboard, chatting, and i almost forgot FULL OPEN SOURCE )
i say go back to the beast "n900", even now its still the best device out there .
 

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Originally Posted by elie-7 View Post
but that android sounded horrible, are you serious ?? downloads stop ??? .
Yep. Thats the case. The internet wont keep on runnig if you switch from it.

Originally Posted by elie-7 View Post
and pressing the back button 20 times........ u can't even close apps .
Thats true you have to press back until you get to the first page and then another press of back to close it.

I have been told that when you switch from an app it stops running which explains why I could not multitask.

You then press the home key and it shows your last few apps which you used and you can switch to them very fast but the main point is that there were not running. Think of the history list in Windows recent items.

It just sucks

Originally Posted by elie-7 View Post
i say go back to the beast "n900", even now its still the best device out there .
Im waiting for the new update which is released in September. If things dont improve then going back to N900.

Or by then if someone can port the Maemo OS to the Galaxy S that would be awesome.
 
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I think you are confusing the O/S with the application. Android does support multi-tasking, but most of your issues seem to be that the default web browser doesn't multi-task. That's a problem with the web browser, not the O/S.

If you download from the Android marketplace you can switch away and the download will continue in the background. If you want to listen to the radio then find a media playing application that will continue to play.

It is true however that multi-tasking on Android is different than on your n900: by default applications don't continue to run in the background. The O/S will tell an app when you switch away, and most apps will just save their state at that point and stop doing anything. The app then usually remains in memory unless you are running low on memory and when you switch back to it you should be at exactly the same point.

When you switch back to an app via the home key it usually will have been running and will come back exactly as you left it (and more quickly than restarting). Unfortunately some apps (I'm guessing maybe ported from the iPhone) don't work if you switch back and just crash instead.

For an application to do something useful in the background it generally has to be written to provide a background service otherwise it is in danger of being killed because the O/S thinks apps which aren't foregrounded are fair game. But that's down to the developer of the app: if they thought it would be useful to continue downloading a web page the browser could do that, but the thinking was that it might impact the performance of other apps so most apps don't do anything while in the background.

Edit to add link to this description of Android multi-tasking: http://android-developers.blogspot.c...droid-way.html

Last edited by Duncan; 2010-08-12 at 11:37.
 

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@Duncan,

Thanks for the very sober explanation of the android mutlitasking system and the link. For mobile devices, I greatly admire the design choices of the android architects as they conserve battery life and enhance performance while still providing this essential feature. I suspect that in time, apps like the browser will be upgraded to provide better multi-tasking support as the OS and core built-in apps have been wonderfully supported of late.

While background browser downloads should be an easy fix, things like flash-based radio and podcasts running as a background app may prove challenging. Thankfully, there are generally links to files for podcasts, and there are alternative solutions for radio.
 
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I picked up a used Vibrant (Galaxy S) last night locally. Very "pretty" phone. I lost my N900 a month ago and have been researching what to do for a replacement.

BIGGEST F'N MISTAKE EVER. I hate this phone. So much so that I decided to flash it to completely factory spec so that I can resell it on ebay. But... it f'n bricked!!

I am so kicking myself right now for not just buying another N900.

AGH!!!!
 
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thanks for the info.. I love the n900 mutitasking ability.. the n900 would be the perfect phone if we only had a few more perks.. (more quality games {love angry bird, spin, zen} but i am greedy i want more}, flash 10.1, workign gps (I have sygic but would love something similar to iphone tom tom search fuction)
 
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ok...... did u guys knew that android works on the n900 the froyo, its damm fast too, and so far only phone functions, gps, and camera don't work, but everything else including multitasking (if u want to call it that way), merketplace, flash10.1, .......
but come on the maemo5 is just better, end of storie .
 
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I'm confused, why would Android on the N900 without phone functionality be a functional alternative to an Android phone?
 
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Phone and radio not working is kind of a big deal.
 
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