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#51
I've just submitted a version of libsdl1.2-1.2.15 to the fullscreen ticket. I don't know if this is usable on Fremantle, it builds in a CSSU-T Fremantle X86 scratchbox target. I won't post links here as it is not an "Extras" package as Chess, Marble etc depend on it.

EDIT: Won't build on Leste atm:
_XData32 redefined.
debian/compat needs to be 5+
dhinstall throws error about missing sdl-config-1*..that's already in the correct folder
More packaging errors.

Will rebase patches on current Debian version to pull in current packaging over the weekend hopefully.

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There's a new blog post out, our March 2018 update: https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-...arch-2018.html

(Android_808 - cool!)
 

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#53
Thanks, great to see some detailed blog posts like that, it's very appreciated! Awesome to see that Anbox might work with Maemo-Leste one day, that would be a game changer for using it on modern devices.
 

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Ok, first working-ish version of libsdl1.2 fixes uploaded to comments.
 

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Is there a chance to run maemo leste on N8x0?
 

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#56
Originally Posted by amigo157 View Post
Is there a chance to run maemo leste on N8x0?
I would say yes. Leste support largely depends on mainline Linux support. There is mainline Linux support for all 3 N8x0 devices, and the 770, although I don't know what state they are in. Support is (currently) provided via board files, notand DT. It definitely worked at some stage, see the eLinux status page.

There is also support for them in QEMU but it seems current mainline booting is broken right now:
https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg141167.html

EDIT:
I see you've already found and updated the eLinux status page.

I should also add that I don't know how well Leste/Hildon will scale to a device with only 128MB RAM and lower screen resolution, but in principle it should be possible to get something running on it.
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#57
wellllll.....
yes and no the n8x0's run on 128mb ram...
extending the memory an additional 128mb via virtual memory ..they also have the ability to bump it up to 256mb ....

but ...that additional virtual memory may not have an impact ...depending on what the intended usage is ...

for example,...I have no idea the impact ...if any... the virtual memory would have in this use case...

unexplored n8x0 country..

as far as running maemo leste from a card instead of onboard storage...
I imagine it would be little different than the current methods for the n8x0...
meaning one is not restricted to capacity...
similar to the n900 in it's methods of running os's off cards...

as far as res conflicts go...between the n900 and n8x0's...
the n900 is what... 800480? right?
same for the n800..
the n810 has 800x458...I think...
so I would hope the difference would be negligible and manageable for the n810...
and that it should have no prob for the n800....
but that is just superficial hoping that is based on simply the screen res comparison...there may be ...god knows what issues... which may impede...

but...
If maemo leste can run on the n8x0 ...
then all I can say are 3 things...
#1- "Wow"
#2- "All praise the Great Kernel in the Sky.."
and #3- "Do it ...do it...do it ...do it!!!! For God's sake man...do it! "


It would modernize and make current again ...an army of devices and hardcore n8x0 lovers which deserve the opportunity...
and doubtless...bring back many users who left ages ago ...
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N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
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242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325

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#58
Originally Posted by wicket View Post
I would say yes. Leste support largely depends on mainline Linux support. There is mainline Linux support for all 3 N8x0 devices, and the 770, although I don't know what state they are in. Support is (currently) provided via board files, not DT. It definitely worked at some stage, see the eLinux status page.

There is also support for them in QEMU but it seems current mainline booting is broken right now:
https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg141167.html

EDIT:
I see you've already found and updated the eLinux status page.

I should also add that I don't know how well Leste/Hildon will scale to a device with only 128MB RAM and lower screen resolution, but in principle it should be possible to get something running on it.
I just edited the previous information. Now I want to find information, patches and collect everything on elinux.org
 

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#59
Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
wellllll.....
yes and no the n8x0's run on 128mb ram...
extending the memory an additional 128mb via virtual memory ..they also have the ability to bump it up to 256mb ....

but ...that additional virtual memory may not have an impact ...depending on what the intended usage is ...

for example,...I have no idea the impact ...if any... the virtual memory would have in this use case...

unexplored n8x0 country..

as far as running maemo leste from a card instead of onboard storage...
I imagine it would be little different than the current methods for the n8x0...
meaning one is not restricted to capacity...
similar to the n900 in it's methods of running os's off cards...

as far as res conflicts go...between the n900 and n8x0's...
the n900 is what... 800480? right?
same for the n800..
the n810 has 800x458...I think...
so I would hope the difference would be negligible and manageable for the n810...
and that it should have no prob for the n800....
but that is just superficial hoping that is based on simply the screen res comparison...there may be ...god knows what issues... which may impede...

but...
If maemo leste can run on the n8x0 ...
then all I can say are 3 things...
#1- "Wow"
#2- "All praise the Great Kernel in the Sky.."
and #3- "Do it ...do it...do it ...do it!!!! For God's sake man...do it! "


It would modernize and make current again ...an army of devices and hardcore n8x0 lovers which deserve the opportunity...
and doubtless...bring back many users who left ages ago ...
I stand corrected. The 770 and N8x0 all have an 800x480 display, the same as the N900.

Also there are already DTs in mainline for all 3 N8x0 devices (I should've known this, they are linked to in my doc!). They do still have legacy board files so there are probably things still to be migrated to DT, that's what confused me I think.

If there is significant interest and people willing to help out, it should be easy enough to produce basic builds for N8x0 devices, starting off with the DTs and omap2plus_defconfig. Maybe I should get myself a device for testing. Although I should probably get N950 and N9 working before I look at this.

In Leste we've been using zram for virtual memory instead of eMMC based swap. It won't give you as much as 128MB extra but it is much faster. Of course we could add normal swap too which may help.
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#60
huh...
zram you say...
well that should be acceptable for the n8x0..since running diablo turbo from card... the use of zram is a given...

But yet again...that is a casually stated observation...subtle finer points of difference will yet again apply....concerning compat.

there is something I have to dig for...
give me a few days and I will be right back....with something...
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5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 has loose usb ( considering it for parts), 1 has no telephony (perfect for permanent set-up as mini-pc with one of my monitors))
1/2 neo900 pre- "bought" in 2013. Due for production any moment now. .
3 nexus 5's : 1 with Lineage ( intend maemo leste when ready) , 1 with Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Plasma Mobile


PIMP MY N8X0
Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
 

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