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2011-10-11
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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber!
lol, the iphone 5 hasn't been announced, so this trend shows people disappointment
This is how a phone is supposed to take off upon announcement:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=nokia+n9%2C+iphone+5
pretty impressive indeed!
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2011-10-11
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I know it's tempting, but please don't feed the troll.
It is on a special diet to control its unfortunate condition. Responding to its FUD only encourages the production of yet more low-grade FUD.
It is on a special diet to control its unfortunate condition. Responding to its FUD only encourages the production of yet more low-grade FUD.
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2011-10-11
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Originally Posted by jalyst
Back in 2009 Samsung made the i8910 with Amoled screen (and before that nokia made the N85 and N86). They were all stripe RGB amoled's.
Why do you keep turning it into porting.
I cited e.g's in response to what you were talking about in that section of your post.
And it had nothing to do with porting...
The Bionic's display is great, if the N9's is as good or slightly better overall it'll be an excellent screen.
As has been pointed out, it'll have limitations (in some respects) compared to RBG Stripe AMOLED (pentile, RGBG, 50% less sub-pixels etc).
This is what the bulk of these "complaints" are you're alluding to...
They're rarely genuine issues, just limitations of Pentile AMOLED compared to RBG Stripe AMOLED.
Translation? jk
The Galaxy S came with a (stunning) Super Amoled, and that was pentile, because it had various advantages, like more brightness, longer lifetime and less power consumption. Now Samsung comes with the RGB stripe as Super Amoled Plus and now the stripe is the hot thing again
I will (the moment I find some time) post some close up pictures from various lcd and amoled screens, including pentile and rgb.
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2011-10-11
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I have the HD7 - Post Mango (it got the upgrade 2 days after I bought it).
Multi-tasking - not so much. Maybe when more apps are written to handle WP7's version of multi-sleeping it will be better. For now, 3rd party app restart on waking up.
The phone is fast, the UI smooth. It has some good integration of fb/twitter status info (though split between People and Me). No direct launch into the appropriate app from there, however.
If people don't like the grid of icons for applications on the N9, they're hardly going to love the single column on WP7!
Live tiles, when more apps make use of them will be good - Weather.com does a nice job of that. Being able to "pin" m.iCaltrain.com search results page for train times directly to the "Home" screen was also good.
There are swipe-like gestures in WP7 - but there are still buttons "off the screen to cause actions on the screen" - which goes against the design aesthetic of the Swipe experience. And I can't see MS letting go of the Windows button, can you?
I find the interface a little 'scattered' - even with the effort to pull things together into hubs.
There are things I miss about my N900 (h/w keyboard for one) - currently relegated to a drawer. The HD7 will follow it when my N9 turns up I'll cope with the absence of a h/w keyboard
Multi-tasking - not so much. Maybe when more apps are written to handle WP7's version of multi-sleeping it will be better. For now, 3rd party app restart on waking up.
The phone is fast, the UI smooth. It has some good integration of fb/twitter status info (though split between People and Me). No direct launch into the appropriate app from there, however.
If people don't like the grid of icons for applications on the N9, they're hardly going to love the single column on WP7!
Live tiles, when more apps make use of them will be good - Weather.com does a nice job of that. Being able to "pin" m.iCaltrain.com search results page for train times directly to the "Home" screen was also good.
There are swipe-like gestures in WP7 - but there are still buttons "off the screen to cause actions on the screen" - which goes against the design aesthetic of the Swipe experience. And I can't see MS letting go of the Windows button, can you?
I find the interface a little 'scattered' - even with the effort to pull things together into hubs.
There are things I miss about my N900 (h/w keyboard for one) - currently relegated to a drawer. The HD7 will follow it when my N9 turns up
I'll cope with the absence of a h/w keyboard
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2011-10-11
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Originally Posted by qwazix
As I understand it, what it did to AMOLED, is essentially what Nokia's done to their AMOLED
Back in 2009 Samsung made the i8910 with Amoled screen (and before that nokia made the N85 and N86). They were all stripe RGB amoled's.
The Galaxy S came with a (stunning) Super Amoled, and that was pentile, because it had various advantages, like more brightness, longer lifetime and less power consumption. Now Samsung comes with the RGB stripe as Super Amoled Plus and now the stripe is the hot thing again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_AMOLED
One of the main differences from other display technologies is that the layer that detects touch is integrated into the screen rather than being overlaid on top.
Compared with the first-generation AMOLED, some of the Super AMOLED advantages are brighter screens, less sunlight reflection and reduced power consumption.
Manufacturers have developed in-cell touch panels, integrating the production of capacitive sensor arrays in the AMOLED module fabrication process.
In-cell sensor AMOLED fabricators include AU Optronics and Samsung. Samsung has marketed their version of this technology as Super AMOLED.
Clear Black Display or CBD is an AMOLED display with a polarized filter on top.
AMOLED displays (10,000 cd/me2) may be difficult to view in direct sunlight compared to LCDs.[11] Samsung's Super AMOLED technology addresses this issue by reducing the size of gaps between layers of the screen.[12][13]
Except for the power consumption side of things, not sure about that.
Plus Nokia also uses CBD (is it just be a rebranding of what Samsung did in SAMOLED?)
Although there must be some differences, as Jakiman claims his N9 is brighter than his SAMOLED+*
I don't think the polariser causes that, AFAIK it just makes the screen more readable in high light environs?
But I guess that extra brightness may not be there when comparing it to phones with SAMOLED?
Plus some have claimed it's easier to read in bright light at the same brightness levels, than the SGSII.
I suspect "Super" is just Samsung's marketing name for what is 'basically' the same tech used by N9.
I suspect Super is trademarked, so Nokia can only use something like "AMOLED CBD" etc.
You look at all the commercial devices that officially use Super AMOLED, & they're all Samsung.
The only way to know for sure that it's not just a Pentile AMOLED, is to get some direct comparisons going.
I'd be surprised if it wasn't as good or better overall than SAMOLED screens though.
As anecdotally some have even felt it's as good or better -in some ways- than SAMOLED+.
Some other interesting links....
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled
http://www.tested.com/news/pentile-v...ifferent/1868/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile_matrix_family
*2-month old SGSII
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2011-10-11
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Originally Posted by OVK
when you say status menu, what are you referring to?
So apparently it is not possible to add anything to status menu in Harmattan: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4117
And I assume that status menu bar is also locked.
This is so totally ******ed design choice that I can't find any justification for this.
EDIT: serious question.
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2011-10-11
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Originally Posted by unfuccwittable
from meego link
when you say status menu, what are you referring to?
EDIT: serious question.
Just to mention some of them:
Display always on
Set alarm
Enable/Disable Wlan, Bluethoot, GSM
Switsch between 2G, 3G
Switch profile
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Also on the N900 I like the status icons for:
Wlan strenght
CPU usage
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When the N900 came out I HAD to have it - ended my contract early & paid $200 for the privilege.
Now the N9 is here and I am a bit "meh" - it's a phone. The N900 is / was the "Concorde" of mobile phones & I really do believe we'll never see anything like it again. Ever.
At this rate, unless I can pick up an N9 outright for <$300 I will probably wait for my contract to expire - in May. I realise this is quite likely to mean WP - but I can only hope that something worthwhile is announced at Nokia World (later this month).
My wife is happy to get the phone for me on her contract (which expires next month) & wants a candy bar (monoblock) Nokia with a decent camera for herself - but Nokia still doesn't make anything like the N78 (or even N73) - correct me if I'm wrong...
The N9 is still the best phone available NOW & if it's still available when I can get a new phone it will be my first choice - but it isn't anything like the NEED I had to get my N900
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2011-10-11
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Originally Posted by rfa
Your post made a lot of sense to me...
At this rate, unless I can pick up an N9 outright for <$300 I will probably wait for my contract to expire - in May. I realise this is quite likely to mean WP - but I can only hope that something worthwhile is announced at Nokia World (later this month).
...all except the paragraph above, which - for three key reasons - seems to me to be many miles west of reality and accelerating:
- You won't get an N9 for <$300 for the same reason you won't be able to buy a new BMW M3 for $10,000.
- Despite your obvious reverence for the N900, you are already planning a future for yourself which involves WP7.
- Nokia don't announce worthwhile things any more.
Sorry
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2011-10-11
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Originally Posted by unfuccwittable
The menu that opens when tapping Status Area:
when you say status menu, what are you referring to?
EDIT: serious question.
http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/...uidelines.html
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