hahaha
thanks gerbick

well we will see...
hope for the best and all...

cuidado con una invasión extraterrestre. de har evnen til en el accidente cualquier boda.

Anyone preorder a note 8?

hahaha
cute Dave.

BTW ...
Talk about remiss !

As of last may it is 12 years since the 770 came out...
and as of last January it is 10 years since the n800 came out....
Missed both birthdays this year...
But I am determined not to miss the tenth birthday of the n810 ...
Mid October if memory serves...
15th? or 16th? I think ...
Maybe earlier or later...
all I remember is that it was mid October...

How would you rate these 12 years in regards to Mobile device tech firms. And what's your take on the coming 12 years?

Well...
I think ...personally ...since the great innovations ...
ie : (and I hate to say it of this first one ...but it does merit the mention...)
the first iphone...
the palm pilot..
the original blackberry ..
and of course the nokia original NIT's... the nxx0 line...
(I'm sure I am missing one or two...)

Since then...
well...
It has been stagnation ...or de-evolution...or regression...since then frankly.

Sure we have 16gb + ram with stupidamountsof storage ,octocore , water cooled, no edge, swiping....

But I don't really see much in "actual" innovation....
everything is dominated now by social media apps...
and the best we see in advancement is the expected...
with a small "extra" here or there...with every successive iteration .
it is a gamble ...a huge risk to change...or rather "attempt" to change the entire playing field of the game...
and that means you have to anticipate what people will want or need.
And I think the companies cannot do that any longer...nor are willing to take the monumental risks involved ...

Nowadays...as we have seen...if a company doesn't come out with an expected functional released device...then that can sink the company.
the samsungs that were catching fire ...almost sunk the company.
the BB's losing their battle with governments to retain the security features with their encrypted communications for their endusers almost sunk them...and it altered the company drastically since.
I could go on..

It is dangerous for a company to simply come out with a new model that ends up being a failure...in whatever way......they may not recover...
So forget about taking huge innovative risks...
It is dangerous for them to do less... or more... than what is expected of them ...

I don't think much good has really happened since the n900...and that was simply adding telephony to the NIT mix..
A good jump for linux phones...
But..
Hardly a huge innovative leap...
all the ground work was already laid by the 770, n800 and n810...

the n900 was merely the next logical step forward...
no huge leap though.

So looking at the playing field ...it is a bunch of companies too scared to change the game for fearing defeat if they fail...
so now they just shuffle along making minute changes along the way...

You know the Note 8 translates complete sentences, not just single words. Could have come in handy here.

Still on the fence. Have about two weeks to decide. Best Buy will give you $150 off as well as the accessories currently offered.

EDIT:Just saw Verizon will give you up to 1/2 off on price depending on trade in. I have on old iphone 6 that they will take $336 off price of Note 8. Tempting so that I have a second dumb phone...

THAT ..makes for a good deal cost wise mscion.

I would do the same with my alcatel ...(as flexible as it was meant to be with os's...)
but half the initial retail price of it ....wouldn't buy me bubblegum

You know... I'd actually love a device like a modern take, but same build quality, of a Nokia N810.

Yup
I absolutely agree...only thing extra to the n810 build I would love to change...is the speaker positions...
Put the left and right speakers right on the face just like the n800 ...
Rather than on the sides or ends ...
Or simply add another set of speakers with a switch for the facing option.
Sound volume seems so much better and louder when music is directed at the subject than away from the subject.

Other than that...toss in 2 card slots like the n800 ...
And a modern n810 physik would be killer.

Great deal! Get it and report back. I will make sure trump push the $ to the bottom and then visit and buy some tech early next year. Note 8 would be about 40% cheaper by then. Not sure if the US note can handle ww frequencies though.