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2009-08-10
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Agree also.
We have recently come to the conclusion that Nokia absolutely does not care about the US market. . . .
I'm counting on the fact that Nokia's market is really outside of the US in hopes of being able to get this device unlocked and unbranded.
Who knows what T-mobile will try to lock down if they subsidized the phone. Will they disallow VOIP? Will they throw a fit if I tried to put Android on it? I don't want to have to play the cat and mouse game with T-mo/Nokia for stuff as simple as gaining root whenever a new firmware update is available.
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2009-08-10
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Originally Posted by klinglerware
I'd be very surprised if Nokia let T-Mobile fiddle with Maemo very much. If it is unmodified Maemo (as I suspect Nokia would insist) this will signal a bigger change in US carriers than the iPhone or Android ever did.
Who knows what T-mobile will try to lock down if they subsidized the phone. Will they disallow VOIP? Will they throw a fit if I tried to put Android on it? I don't want to have to play the cat and mouse game with T-mo/Nokia for stuff as simple as gaining root whenever a new firmware update is available.
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2009-08-10
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Agreed (I've had fun debranding and unlocking simple T-Mobile candy-bar phones that aren't nothing special...) but even if, say, T-Mobile did **** up Maemo, it would still be less restricted than a non-jailbroken, SIM free, iPhone.
I'd be very surprised if Nokia let T-Mobile fiddle with Maemo very much. If it is unmodified Maemo (as I suspect Nokia would insist) this will signal a bigger change in US carriers than the iPhone or Android ever did.
Also, with Phoenix, normal Nokia phones can be flashed to <whatever version> (and the N8x0s were already using BB5 stuff) so a device running Linux should be no problem whatsoever.
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2009-08-10
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
I do hope so, but it's not as though previous Maemo devices have never been locked down by a carrier. See:
I'd be very surprised if Nokia let T-Mobile fiddle with Maemo very much.
- Problem with N810 Singapore model upgrade to Diablo
- Can't Flash N810 bought from Singtel (Singapore)
Did Singtel act without the knowledge and/or assistance of Nokia?
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2009-08-10
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I wonder if they can lock the software and prevent it being updated from the linux flasher too?
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2009-08-10
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It's open source, they can pretty much do whatever they want with it... so who knows what's going to happen until the device is in your hands.
I had no idea any of the previous tablets suffered from lock-down before though.
I had no idea any of the previous tablets suffered from lock-down before though.
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2009-08-10
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
That'd be my guess (or, perhaps, Nokia Singapore acted without knowledge from Nokia-proper or Maemo Software?).
Did Singtel act without the knowledge and/or assistance of Nokia?
The lock-down seemed more accidental than intentional, anyway. Mostly it seemed an issue of the update wizard only checking for a limited set of valid version strings.
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2009-08-10
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Until I read this thread it never occurred to me that I might not be able to use the HSDPA / phone capabilities of the RX-51 in Canada at all. Can anyone comment on the likelihood of the device being compatible with Rogers (or any other Canadian providers)?
I have a sad, sinking feeling that I'll be forced to use this next device like a tablet... Please reassure me...
I'm pretty vague about the whole issue...
I have a sad, sinking feeling that I'll be forced to use this next device like a tablet... Please reassure me...
I'm pretty vague about the whole issue...
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2009-08-10
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Yeah, as a fellow Canadian, I'm also worried that either we won't be able to use it as a phone as intended or we might have to wait a year for it to cross the invisible 49th parallel.
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