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Originally Posted by Yisroel491
Hah.
i guess this is what you're asking to see?
Funny, I posted somehow related thread on memory consumption a way back (don't have the time to look it up).
The reply I got was "linux uses all the available memory by default".
I also noticed phone lagging VERY much once RAM is 100% full (and swap is necessary). This makes sense as flash is slow(seems to be especially slow on N9 but that is my own opinion).
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Originally Posted by tortoisedoc
N9 reserves a portion of RAM for swap (ramzswap) so no flash storage is used by swap as default. If I understand correctly the system compresses pages and then stores them into ramdisk. I don't know what is the performance hit of (de)compressing pages, but it's probably much faster than using flash based swap.
Hah.
Funny, I posted somehow related thread on memory consumption a way back (don't have the time to look it up).
The reply I got was "linux uses all the available memory by default".
I also noticed phone lagging VERY much once RAM is 100% full (and swap is necessary). This makes sense as flash is slow(seems to be especially slow on N9 but that is my own opinion).
Bit off-topic, but the performance of N9's flash storage seems to vary quite wildly from N9 to another, Maybe Nokia aquired chips from several sources.
For example I have two N9's which give very different results using hdparm.:
Rev. 1603 Serial: 5093798
Code:
~ # for i in {1 2 3}; do hdparm -tT /dev/mmcblk0 2>/dev/null; done
/dev/mmcblk0:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 280 MB in 0.51 seconds = 561679 kB/s
Timing buffered disk reads: 94 MB in 3.00 seconds = 32071 kB/s
/dev/mmcblk0:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 280 MB in 0.50 seconds = 562285 kB/s
Timing buffered disk reads: 95 MB in 3.02 seconds = 32176 kB/s
/dev/mmcblk0:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 302 MB in 0.51 seconds = 604549 kB/s
Timing buffered disk reads: 95 MB in 3.02 seconds = 32137 kB/s
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~ # for i in {1 2 3}; do hdparm -tT /dev/mmcblk0 2>/dev/null; done
/dev/mmcblk0:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 138 MB in 0.51 seconds = 276993 kB/s
Timing buffered disk reads: 80 MB in 3.00 seconds = 27297 kB/s
/dev/mmcblk0:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 144 MB in 0.51 seconds = 288364 kB/s
Timing buffered disk reads: 79 MB in 3.02 seconds = 26757 kB/s
/dev/mmcblk0:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 152 MB in 0.51 seconds = 305113 kB/s
Timing buffered disk reads: 81 MB in 3.01 seconds = 27466 kB/s
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2013-06-02
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okay it was difficult to maneuver but i managed to copy top's output from landscape mode.
edit
and here's the output for free.
p.s. i'm not sure if y'all appreciate the severity and extent of my computer illiteracy. i don't understand more than 5% of what anyone is saying. on the other hand you can see that i am capable of following instructions. still i understand if i have exceeded the supply of patience and tolerance for newbie ignorance available within the relatively advanced community of TMO.
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Code:
Mem: 980084K used, 28564K free, 0K shrd, 37772K buff, 443284K cached
CPU: 27.5% usr 5.1% sys 0.0% nic 66.9% idle 0.0% io 0.3% irq 0.0% sirq
Load average: 0.40 0.35 0.19 1/362 10180
PID PPID USER STAT VSZ %VSZ %CPU COMMAND
10078 1 user S < 86728 8.5 24.0 /usr/bin/meego-terminal
558 1 root S < 82504 8.1 3.6 /usr/bin/Xorg -logfile /tmp/Xorg.0.log -cor
1124 1 user S 149m 15.0 0.9 /usr/bin/sysuid -graphicssystem meego
641 1 root S 21700 2.1 0.9 /usr/sbin/sensord
10180 10081 user R < 2164 0.2 0.5 top
2553 1 user S < 60540 5.9 0.3 /opt/theshaketorch/bin/theshaketorchd
565 1 root S < 7288 0.7 0.3 /sbin/mce --force-syslog
355 1 messageb S < 6144 0.6 0.3 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system --nofork
531 2 root SW 0 0.0 0.3 [sgx_misr]
56 2 root SW 0 0.0 0.3 [irq/221-atmel_m]
630 1 csd S 11604 1.1 0.1 /usr/sbin/csd -z -p call autorej=0,autoans=
624 513 root S 4184 0.4 0.1 {hald-addon-inpu} hald-addon-input: Listeni
870 2 root SW 0 0.0 0.1 [ipolldevd]
287 2 root SW 0 0.0 0.1 [sgx_perf]
6709 1 user S < 219m 22.1 0.0 /usr/bin/meego-im-uiserver -remote-theme -u
6250 876 user S 196m 19.7 0.0 /usr/bin/fenix -prestart
9687 876 user S < 192m 19.3 0.0 /opt/forum-qml/bin/forum-qml --tmo
2272 876 user S 180m 18.2 0.0 /usr/bin/camera-ui -prestart
1599 876 user S 176m 17.8 0.0 /usr/bin/call-history -prestart
1824 876 user S 173m 17.4 0.0 /usr/bin/messaging-ui -prestart
9681 876 user S 172m 17.3 0.0 /usr/bin/grob -prestart
and here's the output for free.
Code:
~ $ free -m
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 985 956 28 0 34
-/+ buffers: 921 63
Swap: 255 10 245
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2013-06-02
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Originally Posted by ladoga
Might also depend on the battery level of each device - and / or battery qualiy?
Bit off-topic, but the performance of N9's flash storage seems to vary quite wildly from N9 to another, Maybe Nokia aquired chips from several sources.
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2013-06-02
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Originally Posted by ladoga
apparently the TMO app doesn't wrap the lines.
It would be also nice if TMO had [code] tags that didn't wrap the lines. :/
it just cuts them off. lol. but in landscape you can get pretty much the whole line. probably not the best solution especially if you want to be on your desktop.
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2013-06-03
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Originally Posted by Yisroel491
ever tried playing without sound effect and bgm? not really a solution, but gameplay should be smoother
I've installed fasterN9 and still suffering tons of lag especially playing urban fat burner. are there any other easy methods of speeding up the phone?
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2013-06-03
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You could try using DropCache from the ovi store. It seems to help me and speed my N9 up if it's been busy for a while.
Worth checking out:
http://everythingn9.com/drop-cache-f...an-app-review/
Worth checking out:
http://everythingn9.com/drop-cache-f...an-app-review/
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2013-06-03
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@Jeffery04
hey that actually worked pretty well. i can actually play urban fat burners now. but like you said it isn't a real remedy for whatever is lagging out the memory. but at least now I'll be able to achieve my anti junk food trophy
@AndyNokia232
picked up and used the app and here are the results:
definitely freed up some memory. edit: it would be nice to be able to increase my total amount of swap available.
Last edited by Yisroel491; 2013-06-03 at 15:48.
hey that actually worked pretty well. i can actually play urban fat burners now. but like you said it isn't a real remedy for whatever is lagging out the memory. but at least now I'll be able to achieve my anti junk food trophy
@AndyNokia232
picked up and used the app and here are the results:
Code:
Mem: 673224K used, 335424K free, 0K shrd, 12860K buff, 181308K cached
CPU: 76.9% usr 23.0% sys 0.0% nic 0.0% idle 0.0% io 0.0% irq 0.0% sirq
Load average: 0.11 0.32 0.42 3/359 15387
PID PPID USER STAT VSZ %VSZ %CPU COMMAND
15196 1 user R < 84336 8.3 38.3 /usr/bin/meego-terminal
14360 1 user R < 221m 22.3 23.0 /usr/bin/meego-im-uiserver -remote-theme -u
558 1 root S < 86540 8.5 7.6 /usr/bin/Xorg -logfile /tmp/Xorg.0.log -cor
568 1 pulse S < 49756 4.9 7.6 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --system --high-priorit
10379 876 user S 203m 20.5 0.0 /usr/bin/fenix -prestart
~ $ free -m
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 985 657 327 0 12
-/+ buffers: 644 340
Swap: 255 59 196
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2013-06-03
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Originally Posted by Yisroel491
definitely freed up some memory. edit: it would be nice to be able to increase my total amount of swap available.
There was an article on everythingn9 at some point last month I think (about swap)
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LINKer - transform your N9's home view in a Desktop, give it the freedom it deserves! -> LINKer for Harmattan
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RAM should be in use so that's normal, question is how much of it is used as cache and thus reallocated when some application needs it. Running "free" from the command line would be more informative.
~ $ free -m total used free shared buffers Mem: 985 760 224 0 17 -/+ buffers: 743 241 Swap: 412 94 317@Yisroel.
Your top output seems to be cropped from the right side so names of the processes aren't shown. Try to print out something like this:
Mem: 778016K used, 230632K free, 0K shrd, 18144K buff, 296660K cached CPU: 0.3% usr 0.5% sys 0.0% nic 99.0% idle 0.0% io 0.0% irq 0.0% sirq Load average: 0.00 0.01 0.00 1/353 12708 PID PPID USER STAT VSZ %VSZ %CPU COMMAND 12708 12671 user R 3104 0.3 0.4 top -n 2 364 1 root S < 1776 0.1 0.2 /sbin/dsme -p /lib/dsme/libstartup.so 945 1 user S < 202m 20.4 0.0 /usr/bin/meego-im-uiserver -remote-theme -use-self-composition 10804 897 user S 193m 19.5 0.0 /usr/bin/fenix -prestart 11148 897 user S 178m 17.9 0.0 /usr/bin/call-history -prestart 2832 897 user S 177m 17.9 0.0 /usr/bin/camera-ui -prestart 1871 897 user S 172m 17.3 0.0 /usr/bin/organiser -prestart 6235 897 user S 169m 17.0 0.0 /usr/bin/messaging-ui -prestart 952 1 user S < 159m 16.1 0.0 /usr/bin/meegotouchhome -remote-theme -upstart -graphicssystem meego -prestart 918 1 user S < 159m 16.1 0.0 /usr/bin/sysuid -graphicssystem meego 1826 897 user S 156m 15.8 0.0 /usr/bin/contacts -prestart 11047 897 user S < 155m 15.6 0.0 /usr/bin/grob -prestart 11166 897 user S 136m 13.7 0.0 /usr/bin/call-ui -prestart 993 897 user S < 125m 12.6 0.0 /usr/bin/conndlgs 5540 897 user S 115m 11.6 0.0 /usr/bin/duicontrolpanel.launch -appletloader -outprocess 995 897 user S N 113m 11.4 0.0 /usr/bin/applifed.x 12557 897 user S < 113m 11.4 0.0 booster-m 10784 897 user S < 110m 11.1 0.0 booster-d 1438 1326 user S N 109m 11.0 0.0 msgindexer 1773 1 user S < 108m 10.9 0.0 /usr/bin/commhistoryd 1636 1 user S N 105m 10.6 0.0 /usr/bin/contactsd 2229 2223 user S < 104m 10.5 0.0 {n9-button-monit} /usr/bin/python /opt/n9-button-monitor/n9-button-monitor.py 897 1 user S < 103m 10.4 0.0 /usr/bin/applauncherd.bin --re-exec 5455 897 user S < 103m 10.4 0.0 booster-qLast edited by ladoga; 2013-06-02 at 10:43.