Is there a problem with that, good sir? I thought it (among others) was a reason why this forum exists.

For the record, I didn't offer any job to anybody. Just a pointer to paths to promote Lumia devices better than arguing at maemo.org with the Maemo community.

PS: answering Lumiaman, Nokia funds the maemo.org infra but doesn't own it. The present and future of this community is decided by this community. I believe all this energy spent in personal attacks could be better invested in constructive discussion and collaboration around important community topics like http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83398 but maybe it's just me.

Qgil, Lumiaman is a troll. Creating arguments here clearly amuses him, that's why he post provocative comments here, not because he wants to promote Lumia devices.

Now everyone, please stop feeding the troll.

It's not like we're feeding him steak. Even a troll can only stomach sh*t sandwiches for so long.

Well, that's a mighty convenient way to dismiss people who've been interested and following all along but didn't want to waste their money on the deranged direction of Maemo/MeeGo. Just the same, you still missed his point about how it should exclude participation. I hardly think exclusivity would be beneficial. Just look at how well Nokia has done by only listening to the dwindling number of people who've continued to blindly purchase their products.

As much as I've gotten to like Android and most people seem to think I'm married to it, I want to disagree. They would be FAR better served by admitting a mistake with the Windows Platform exclusivity and instead dig back into their far more progressive technologies where they were ALREADY ahead of most competitiors--namely Maemo and the tablets. Nokia has already announced they want to make a Windows Mobile tablet. You KNOW this is already a tragic decision. It's only very RECENTLY that tablets are incredibly popular and tying them to your wireless business (i.e. tethering to your cell phones for wireless ANYWHERE, in addition to the plethora of wifi availability in general) and services as a portable workhorse using Maemo and Linux would be a far smarter move. Windows has soured enough customers on the desktop and it's only on so many through underhanded business tactics, it's barely made a dent in any other category (servers, mobile, etc). Nokia SHOULD have played it smart and helped BURY a competitor instead of making sloppy sex with it and mixing two horribly failing DNA's while casting away all the good things they HAD done.

Had you been around long enough to remember, you might have experienced Maemo on its UPSWING rather than dismiss the folks that came in during the InternetTabletTalk days where we saw what a successful formula looked like. Perhaps that might even be reason to dismiss all the NEW people that only bought into Nokia within the last two years. Hmmmm!

At any rate--I responded, but this hardly has anything to do with the Maemo Council debate.

Can we please dispense with the nationalistic insults?

Please never use 'taliban', whos start it? No meaning to attack smart american, its special to mr dumbo lumiaman, sorry

Nah, I like being called Taliban. Once you think of guys that destroyed USSR, ended cold war and didn't frown during US invasion... pls more 'insults' like those

I don't know about that. He has been getting some pretty prime responses as far as I can see. Just consider how much shorter this thread would be without Lumiaman's input, that's his handiwork, he can look at it and smile. He doesn't care if his arguments get trashed, they are just put there to get a rise out people here, and to get them worked up, so if people resort to personal attacks against him, so much the better as far as he is concerned, it will just be water off a duck's back. He won't stop until he gets bored, and the easiest way to make that happen is to ignore him.

I'll admit I do enjoy reading a really good troll, they can be works of art, but they are few and far between, there is no subtlety in Lumiaman's posts and it is just sad that so many people respond to his bait.

Lumia means prostitute in Spanish slang. Its a subtle hint at what Nokia has become. How much more evidence do you guys need? Elop is the pimp, Microsoft is the male pornstar, WM7 is the condom and we are all greatly anticipating the outcome of the porn they made.

Elop is a bigot. Even Mark Shuttleworth (Ubuntu founder) spoke against Elop, calling him "short sighted".

In the coming years Elop will drown in his bigotry and disappear into an abyss of stupidity. Nokia will become junk, all the best talents have left and Microsoft will be suing everyone for coming up with ideas faster than them before ultimately becoming junk as well.

Then, i bet you guys will be happy. Right?

Not at all. That's the problem... people are unhappy with the decisions so far from Elop.