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2011-02-20
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Has anyone compiled a list of what things in Maemo aren't committed upstream, (and possibly why)?
By upstream, I mean drivers into the Linus' kernel, patches to any common apps and Qt etc.
Since Nokia has left us to dry, we need to turn Maemo into a generic mobile handset distro, start work on removing all reliance on specific features of N900. So that in the future, at least code can be reused.
Maybe it's possible that merging maemo software into the Openwrt distro is a good idea?
Openwrt already works great for low memory ARM targets, and probably has the easiest build time configurator around.
By upstream, I mean drivers into the Linus' kernel, patches to any common apps and Qt etc.
Since Nokia has left us to dry, we need to turn Maemo into a generic mobile handset distro, start work on removing all reliance on specific features of N900. So that in the future, at least code can be reused.
Maybe it's possible that merging maemo software into the Openwrt distro is a good idea?
Openwrt already works great for low memory ARM targets, and probably has the easiest build time configurator around.
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2011-02-20
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#103
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Originally Posted by Funklord
Hardware drivers, iirc, are all merged upstream (thus their availability in MeeGo.)
Has anyone compiled a list of what things in Maemo aren't committed upstream, (and possibly why)?
By upstream, I mean drivers into the Linus' kernel, patches to any common apps and Qt etc.
Since Nokia has left us to dry, we need to turn Maemo into a generic mobile handset distro, start work on removing all reliance on specific features of N900. So that in the future, at least code can be reused.
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2011-02-20
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#104
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I think I need to buy me 1 or 2 more n900s to finally start testing meego. *mumble*
It's so silly that most operators don't offer multiple sims for a single subscription anymore in Sweden
It's so silly that most operators don't offer multiple sims for a single subscription anymore in Sweden
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2011-02-21
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#105
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Originally Posted by AlMehdi
Nope. TMO and maintenance of maemo.org are handled via a different contract than MeeGo forums and other infrastructure.
I am not sure exactly but to my knowledge TMO are funded through the Meego project.
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2011-02-22
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#106
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I just saw on the Mint blog that they are able to get about $5000 a month on donations. Maybe not comparable but still... also have noted that more and more people are offering donations but have no place to donate. If we wait too long we might lose the momentum.
Are the Council working on a solution? Maybe start a new thread on this?
Are the Council working on a solution? Maybe start a new thread on this?
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2011-02-22
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#107
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Originally Posted by AlMehdi
No-one's volunteered yet a concrete solution to how to handle donations into a slush fund. Who holds the keys? Who gets to decide how it's spent? What if it isn't spent? How does it get transferred from one council to another? What if another rogue element gets elected to the council who makes a lot of noise before the election, and then does nothing during his term? What if he ran off with the money?
I just saw on the Mint blog that they are able to get about $5000 a month on donations. Maybe not comparable but still... also have noted that more and more people are offering donations but have no place to donate. If we wait too long we might lose the momentum.
Are the Council working on a solution? Maybe start a new thread on this?
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2011-02-23
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Originally Posted by lma
Although I agree that moving to a new domain would take time and effort, I disagree it should be avoided at all costs. For it has one major advantage: it would allow a clean and fresh new start.
A clean break and move to another domain is not altogether impossible but it will be very painful and it's best avoided if at all possible.
All information could be set up in a new fresh way. Instead of several threads on the forum a setup like a wiki would make finding info easier. Forums can be used for discussion (instead of information being scattered across threads).
Just my 2 cents on the matter
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2011-02-23
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#109
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Originally Posted by redman
Sort of like having http://wiki.maemo.org/ and http://talk.maemo.org/ ?!
All information could be set up in a new fresh way. Instead of several threads on the forum a setup like a wiki would make finding info easier. Forums can be used for discussion (instead of information being scattered across threads).
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2011-02-23
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Originally Posted by lma
I wonder how many really reflash their device on a regular basis.
... if it means that every user has to modify their package repository settings (and redo it every time they reflash).
In my mind (which could be wrong, feel free to correct me) there is the mass who love the N900 and simply use it. They will update and continue to use it. And there are the people who have a (lovely) twitch and tweak, flash their N900 whenever they think they can get something new into it.
If maemo.org comes to an halt, it might be an option to create Community images instead of the original Nokia images used to (re)flash the N900. Of course it would depend on how willing Nokia would be to allow this since there is closed software in it. But if maemo.org comes to an end and Nokia won't allow the use of any (closed) material, flashing with official images will always pose a problem.
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A clean break and move to another domain is not altogether impossible but it will be very painful and it's best avoided if at all possible.