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Originally Posted by kinggo View Post
well, since it's MTK based I'm pretty sure that it's android kernel. That's why I wasn't interested in the first place.


The case could be interesting for moders anyway
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Originally Posted by www.rzr.online.fr View Post
The case could be interesting for moders anyway
Highly doubtful.
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Originally Posted by railroadmaster View Post
XFCE is cool but I want a true 90s interface
Just theme it. You can make XFCE as beautiful or as ugly as you want.
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Originally Posted by deprecated View Post
Just theme it. You can make XFCE as beautiful or as ugly as you want.
Can you make it look like Windows 3.0?
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Originally Posted by railroadmaster View Post
XFCE is cool but I want a true 90s interface
I see.
Well, since you'd have to build CDE on your own anyways you could just as well try TWIN [1], for a TRUE true 90s interface.

[1] https://sourceforge.net/projects/twin/
 

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Do you think there could be someone in the comunity with enough skills to compile hildon, or later maemo/meego interfaces into this new gemini pda? I do feel the new pda is the hw that can run all those UI's that never had a proper HW to run in (because it did not exist back then).
 

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For what I know the machine is only able to run linux. It is in prototype stages and debian is only a proof of concept at this time. In fact even android is at the begining stages. It works but it do not surely have yet the interface tweaked for a "handheld pc". A beautiful oportunity to get engaged with a long dreamed project. I guess that if you decide to put maemo/meego UI to run in this chipset they would have no problem to distribute it. For what I heard, they started with Debian but open to external colaboration to create diferent distros firmwares.
 

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Originally Posted by epertinez View Post
Do you think there could be someone in the comunity with enough skills to compile hildon, or later maemo/meego interfaces into this new gemini pda?
If there is such a someone with enough skills in the community, then he doesn't have enough interest in doing it.
Up until Squeeze there was a hildon-desktop package in Debian which afair was the same version like on the N800 or N810. But it was in terrible shape. It was literally unusable and I didn't figure out how to configure it to make is usable.

If there were someone with enough interest and skill to port hildon to the Gemini, I bet he'd currently make sure there is a working hildon package in Debian.

Originally Posted by epertinez View Post
For what I know the machine is only able to run linux. It is in prototype stages and debian is only a proof of concept at this time.
There is no such thing like a "Debian proof of concept stage". Debian runs on more platforms than any other Linux and it is very clear where it can run and where it can't.
So if you design new hardware where you intend to run Debian, you have to either make sure to chose components that are already compatible with Debian or you have to make sure that Debian gets that compatibility (sources hosted by the Debian project).

Anything else, like creating a chimera of an Android kernel and a Debian userland is doomed to fail in the long run.
This is why I asked those questions in my first post here. I want to know if this is a true Debian system (in which case I'd be very interested if I can circumvent booting the Android system at all) or some twisted chimera (in which case I don't have the slightest interest in this device).


[1] http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/hildon-desktop/
 

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in connection with hildon on this device (or any other Linux device) ... see Maemo-Leste on GitHub
https://github.com/maemo-leste
 

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Originally Posted by sicelo View Post
in connection with hildon on this device (or any other Linux device) ... see Maemo-Leste on GitHub
https://github.com/maemo-leste
this.

If we manage to do it as we want and plan, it will be just a matter of HW adaptation package to have it running on whatever (upstream kernel supported) device you may think of.
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