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BTW, frals, I've never gotten around to doing this, but: Thank you for making this. In my personal opinion, this app is wonderful. I WOULD however love that configurable subject line option. I know most people don't use it, but I'd like to have the option to.
Anyway, as for me, I don't have any of the complaints the original poster does. I didn't use my N900 for half a year as a phone. Just switched to using it that way yesterday. And within one check of the wikipedia and correcting two fields I had entered wrong at some point in the past in fMMS, I was able to painlessly receive an MMS from my girlfriend.
For a completely essentially-one-person-made program, it's ridiculously good. It's not integrated with the rest of conversations, which isn't ideal, yeah, but when you actually stop and think about it, it's ridiculous how much work frals has done and how well he's implemented something most companies have dedicated employees for.
I mean, I remember when you actually had to install fAPN seperately, and configure the APN to be able to even use fMMS. Now it does it for you, and does Havoc mode in a way that is theoretically potentially buggy but in practice almost never is.
It's depressing to me that there's anyone in the world who's not mind-blown by that.
Anyway, as for me, I don't have any of the complaints the original poster does. I didn't use my N900 for half a year as a phone. Just switched to using it that way yesterday. And within one check of the wikipedia and correcting two fields I had entered wrong at some point in the past in fMMS, I was able to painlessly receive an MMS from my girlfriend.
For a completely essentially-one-person-made program, it's ridiculously good. It's not integrated with the rest of conversations, which isn't ideal, yeah, but when you actually stop and think about it, it's ridiculous how much work frals has done and how well he's implemented something most companies have dedicated employees for.
I mean, I remember when you actually had to install fAPN seperately, and configure the APN to be able to even use fMMS. Now it does it for you, and does Havoc mode in a way that is theoretically potentially buggy but in practice almost never is.
It's depressing to me that there's anyone in the world who's not mind-blown by that.
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2010-11-14
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@ ericsson
@ romanianusa
so far, I haven't seen sh*t from either of you two in the "useful applications for the N900 that I've made from scratch" category.
Considering the N900 came with no MMS support whatsoever, out of the box, I would put it to both of you that, Frals has done a sensational job of getting MMS working to the level it does (and continues to improve and update the application on a regular basis).
I for one, as an individual with virtually no coding skills at all, am immensely grateful for all the UNPAID work Frals has done (thanks mate!) to provide the community with something Nokia didn't
In fact I might go so far as to say that until either of you write an application that's either comparable or better, you can stop pissing and moaning.
Ungrateful sods
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@ romanianusa
so far, I haven't seen sh*t from either of you two in the "useful applications for the N900 that I've made from scratch" category.
Considering the N900 came with no MMS support whatsoever, out of the box, I would put it to both of you that, Frals has done a sensational job of getting MMS working to the level it does (and continues to improve and update the application on a regular basis).
I for one, as an individual with virtually no coding skills at all, am immensely grateful for all the UNPAID work Frals has done (thanks mate!) to provide the community with something Nokia didn't
In fact I might go so far as to say that until either of you write an application that's either comparable or better, you can stop pissing and moaning.
Ungrateful sods
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2010-11-14
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Originally Posted by onethreealpha
Whatever. The 'unpleasent' truth still remains. fMMS lacks most basic functionality to be able to use it the way MMS is used in all other devices. Nokia did not provide us with MMS functionality, the point is, fMMS doesn't either. Proof of concept, yes, but that's it.
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@ romanianusa
so far, I haven't seen sh*t from either of you two in the "useful applications for the N900 that I've made from scratch" category.
Considering the N900 came with no MMS support whatsoever, out of the box, I would put it to both of you that, Frals has done a sensational job of getting MMS working to the level it does (and continues to improve and update the application on a regular basis).
I for one, as an individual with virtually no coding skills at all, am immensely grateful for all the UNPAID work Frals has done (thanks mate!) to provide the community with something Nokia didn't
In fact I might go so far as to say that until either of you write an application that's either comparable or better, you can stop pissing and moaning.
Ungrateful sods
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2010-11-14
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Originally Posted by ericsson
If you don't like it then don't use it.
Whatever. The 'unpleasent' truth still remains. fMMS lacks most basic functionality to be able to use it the way MMS is used in all other devices. Nokia did not provide us with MMS functionality, the point is, fMMS doesn't either. Proof of concept, yes, but that's it.
Obviously trying to instruct you on how the comunity works when there is something you would like to see in an application someone has put their own time and effort into
is a total waste of all our time.
Take your "pissing & moaning" to nokia and see where that gets you
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2010-11-14
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And you still have not been able to point out what it doesnt do yet, except "it doesnt look like Symbian".
Thanks for pointing out the issue with forwarding though, I fixed the regression there last night.
Thanks for pointing out the issue with forwarding though, I fixed the regression there last night.
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Problem with fMMS? Run in x-terminal: cp /tmp/fmms.log /home/user/MyDocs/
After that you'll see fmms.log in filemanager or when you connect the device to your desktop as a mass storage device.
E-mail the log to me, if you don't have the email address, drop me a PM. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Joseph.skb
Open Mobile Alliance standards?
Why does it need to be capped under 300kb? I'm asking because a standard pic with N900 (5Mp) is easily >700kb. Any way to expand this option? Or is it standard MMS settings?
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2010-11-14
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Originally Posted by romanianusa
Try to understand the fundamental differences between SMS (picture messages) and MMS (data) before you make statements like this. You are wrong good sir, and I challenge you to a duel. (Throws gauntlet on floor)
fmms is useless to me because you have to have data plan to receive or send pictures. You can't do it with wi-fi or can't do it within the concept of txt messaging. My oldest phone which ISN'T a smartphone and was 5 years old...was able to receive pictures through txt messaging and this smartphone can't!!
The N900 is a tablet computer with phone features, not all the features, just some of them. The multiple SMS picture message thing is a tad dated (ancient in fact) and, well, kind of obsolete if you ask me. If you want that feature you'll have to talk to Nokia - conversations is a closed application. While it'd be pretty easy to intercept picture messages, you'd still have the same problem as fMMS in that it can't integrate in to conversations directly.
If you got the N900 for these so called picture messages, you got the wrong machine.
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Originally Posted by ericsson
Try and actually understand what people are telling you.
Is this a kindergarten? Did I hurt your feelings kids? Well, I'm so sorry. If I like fMMS or not has nothing to do with it. The app is NOT a usefull app to send/receive MMS, it does NOT have the functionality required, not by a long shot.
I don't use fMMS. The reason is not that I don't like it, or don't appriciate the work by frals. The reason is that the app suck in doing what an MMS app is supposed to do. Most of it it doesn't even do.
This is definitely not a preschool, but your language tends to make one wonder if you may be a student thereof. It would be much better if you could actually articulate your desire in a less combative manner.
So you want MMS to be integrated in to conversations - well, short and simple - it cannot be done, and it never will be unless Nokia make it so. Conversations is closed. That is not the fault of anyone here, asking for something better will not get you very far, the best is fMMS, if it doesn't do what you want then you've reached a dead end.
You have one option. Write an application that replaces conversations (every feature thereof) and includes MMS. To say this is non-trivial would probably be an understatement.
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Originally Posted by frals
There are two things that makes it useless, and I mean totally, especially combined:
And you still have not been able to point out what it doesnt do yet, except "it doesnt look like Symbian".
Thanks for pointing out the issue with forwarding though, I fixed the regression there last night.
1. No multiple recipients.
2. Unable to forward an MMS in the proper way (should work like e-mail from a user perspective).
But reading through this thread I see that both these are fixed. That is very good, it makes fMMS actually usable, but still very limited. I haven't tried the new version yet though.
Then there are a subject line. I cant find any. This is important, just as in e-mail.
Ability to send movies.
Ability to send a picture with sound (this is one of the main basic functionality of MMS), and the one that is used most.
And of course playback of those things.
Anyway what strikes me the most, is that this is BASICS. Ability to send a picture is fine, but that is not what MMS is all about. Still, I see one after the other asking me to be specific, as if MMS is some new exotic functionality in a phone. I mean, MMS is old, as old as the camera phone, and if you have no idea what MMS is all about, then STFU! All these holier than though 'this is a community, not Nokia' children here - it is pathetic.
MMS is as standard as SMS, as standard as e-mail, as standard as a virtual terminal, and so are the basic functionality. I am talking the most basic here, as in the ability to enter text in an SMS, hit 'enter' in a virtual terminal and so on. Just pick up the cheapest dumbphone and learn.
Frals is doing a great job, I have never said othervise. But the functionality of fMMS is severly lacking, to the point of uselesness for everyday MMS use. At least the version I have installed right now, it cannot be used because it lacks basic functionality. But I will give the newest version a try.
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Ref the network modes Polite, Rude, Havoc; I can only operate fMMS when using 3G mobile internet service. Which network modes will allow fMMS to operate with WLAN? or standard phone service?
I'm really glad to have fMMS! The only 2 things missing from this great phone was MMS and 3G video call. fMMS took care of the MMS missing part. Skype video call didn't really fix my situation (yet) because most of my contacts aren't on skype with video conf all the time.