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2014-11-10
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not bad, not bad at all ¦-)))
ok, i have a 64GB µSD card & beside a couple ext2 partitions (as "backup" locations for system files, obviously) i added an extended partition with two Linux swap partition and see there... Flopswap found them!
good job.
this being said, while i am running my shell scripts to change the the swap partitions i also always run free and... used swap hardly ever exceeds 128MB
am i using my beloved N900 (still my primary phone, though i use Jolla device for an Android app that i depend upon) so lightly?
maybe i don't use the N900 quite as much as i used to, except for texting, IM.ing and calls (also VoIP).
just installed Flopswap thus will see how often it advices me to refresh my swap but i wonder...
on another, slightly related topic... Neo900 will have 1GB of working memory; will this not be like on PCs with 16GBs where swap is hardly ever used?
ok, i have a 64GB µSD card & beside a couple ext2 partitions (as "backup" locations for system files, obviously) i added an extended partition with two Linux swap partition and see there... Flopswap found them!
good job.
this being said, while i am running my shell scripts to change the the swap partitions i also always run free and... used swap hardly ever exceeds 128MB
am i using my beloved N900 (still my primary phone, though i use Jolla device for an Android app that i depend upon) so lightly?
maybe i don't use the N900 quite as much as i used to, except for texting, IM.ing and calls (also VoIP).
just installed Flopswap thus will see how often it advices me to refresh my swap but i wonder...
on another, slightly related topic... Neo900 will have 1GB of working memory; will this not be like on PCs with 16GBs where swap is hardly ever used?
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2014-11-10
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ouups, slight problem...
on one hand printscreen of Flopswap...
on the other hand...
maybe a little optimistic?
59112 / 999952 * 100 = 6%
the 5MB would be a closer match... for the % (5.91)
Edit: okay, just noticed that the apps displays the used fragments of the swap partition, indeed, thus not memory use; after opening MicroB, mail, some Skype IM the numbers increase dramatically (obviously)
still, think the app is a little on the low side of the actual number...
Last edited by misterc; 2014-11-10 at 02:02.
on one hand printscreen of Flopswap...
on the other hand...
Code:
Nokia-N900:~# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 235252 231864 3388 0 16144
-/+ buffers: 215720 19532
Swap: 999952 57460 942492
Nokia-N900:~# echo 3 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
Nokia-N900:~# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 235252 202284 32968 0 68
-/+ buffers: 202216 33036
Swap: 999952 59112 940840
Nokia-N900:~#
59112 / 999952 * 100 = 6%
the 5MB would be a closer match... for the % (5.91)
Edit: okay, just noticed that the apps displays the used fragments of the swap partition, indeed, thus not memory use; after opening MicroB, mail, some Skype IM the numbers increase dramatically (obviously)
still, think the app is a little on the low side of the actual number...
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2014-11-10
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Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast
I meant visualizing the *used* swap already displayed
I looked into a progress bar, it's a bit out of the question really as there is no way of hooking into the swapon progress. I originally thought of a QProcessbar to indicate swapping active. I decided that the standard maemo busy menu bar indication was better, as you could leave the application minimized.
I will look into confirmation on device swap, I maybe able to do that with a standard maemo dialog message.
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2014-11-10
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Originally Posted by misterc
16 GB? I never used swap on my PC with 1 GB of RAM. It was running Debian Wheezy, FreeOffice and some DVD authoring SW just fine.
on another, slightly related topic... Neo900 will have 1GB of working memory; will this not be like on PCs with 16GBs where swap is hardly ever used?
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2014-11-10
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Originally Posted by pichlo
We now have 1GB RAM+swap together, so in theory having 1GB RAM makes the whole need for swap obsolete (so maybe Fremantle on Neo900 will be configured swapless at all by default?
16 GB? I never used swap on my PC with 1 GB of RAM. It was running Debian Wheezy, FreeOffice and some DVD authoring SW just fine.
) unless someone really needs more memory (which can be done then manually by that person), am I right?
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2014-11-10
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Originally Posted by misterc
Well if you scroll back a few pages this was bought up, the calculations in flopswap have always been the same. I believe they are correct, but feel free to double check them.
still, think the app is a little on the low side of the actual number...
Still remember that 'free' will never equal flopswap values, as I think you understand this is calculating fresh unfragmented swap not used swap or free swap.
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2014-11-10
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Originally Posted by misiak
Also bear in mind FreEmantle may well be thumb compiled too. I feel we will still need swap, however, I think swapiness setting should be completely different.
We now have 1GB RAM+swap together, so in theory having 1GB RAM makes the whole need for swap obsolete (so maybe Fremantle on Neo900 will be configured swapless at all by default?
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2014-11-20
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Regarding the latest interface, I think the two frames in the middle may lead a new user to believe that the data is refreshed automatically or periodically. Without them, she was "forced" to press the buttons.
Suggest putting "There must be..." text at the top in the Quick Guide, because it is critical information; the rest is redundant if the "must" condition is not met.
Suggest putting "There must be..." text at the top in the Quick Guide, because it is critical information; the rest is redundant if the "must" condition is not met.
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2014-11-20
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I have been meaning to comment in the same vane, so thanks chill. There is redundancy now... interface issue of course, not function.
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I will look into confirmation on device swap, I maybe able to do that with a standard maemo dialog message.
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