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2012-08-31
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Hi guys, I haven't had any response from council yet regarding my questions on the voting process. I had a look through council logs and don't think it's been raised yet. There is a council meeting on irc scheduled for 18:00 UTC today so perhaps it will be one of the agenda items. If someone is attending could they please check that it's discussed for us? Unfortunately I'll be beginning my 2 hour commute from work at that time and won't be able to attend the meeting myself.
I'm keen to hear any proposals for voting from y'all out there, as it's arguably the most important part of the whole process. Writing off the top of my head right now, here's what i see as possibilities ranked in preferred order.
- Council voting mechanism (Preferred choice)
PROS: Same as we used last year. This will enable us to receive 'anonymous' votes in a desirably trustworthy manner, in accordance with council voting rules, from users with a desired criteria (certain amount of karma, etc).
CONS: It has not been confirmed either way, but the noises from council are that this option will not be made available to us this time.- maemo.org anonymous poll for each category
PROS: Simple to setup, anonymous
CONS: Not as secure or trusted as council voting mechanism, unable to pro-actively apply voter criteria (number of posts/karma etc). Any voter criteria would have to be applied in retrospect, and as votes are cast anonymously it would require co-ordination between Reggie and council to remove votes from duplicate ID/non-eligible voters.- maemo.org non-anonymous poll for each category
PROS: Simple to setup.
CONS: Not as secure or trusted as council voting mechanism, unable to pro-actively apply voter criteria. Reggie required to remove duplicate IPs etc. Some users may feel put off from voting if everyone can see their choices.- Everyone just pm's Kojacker their choices
PROS: Simple to setup, anonymous
CONS: PM mail box may not be large enough, may need continued filtering to receive all votes from users. Kojacker can apply any voter criteria manually by checking profiles etc after all votes cast but, as it's a manual process, this will take longer, Kojacker will have no social life for a while. No up-to-date feedback as given with a forum poll. Introduces possibility of more human error, Kojacker may succumb to bribery - hopefully of a sexual kind (females only).- Everyone submits a voting form/emails the maemo.competition2012 email address, from a webpage hosted away from maemo.org (possibly my blog, somewhere else..)
PROS: We can take care of everything ourselves. No mail limit.
CONS: Loses some 'maemo.org legitimacy'. Longer set up time. Without someone logging into their maemo.org account, there's no way to tell you are who you claim to be. Still a slow, manual process for counting/applying voter criteria. Kojacker still humanly fallable and possibly corruptable (I'd love a Ferrari)- We forget about voting, let the council decide the winners from the entries (least favorable choice)
PROS: Easy
CONS: I don't think anyone wants this (especially the council )
Please let me know if you can think of any more options, or just your thoughts on the above.
Edit:
- Estel may know someway of handling a similar maemo.org council mechanism but hosted outside the maemo.org infrastructure.
PROS: Maybe kojacker can take a break
CONS: I don't know anything more about it, I'd like to know more.
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2012-08-31
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Hi kojacker it seems that the response has been lost between this thread and the Ask The Council thread, with such silly discussions there and on IRC,
Disclaimer: I'm talking without real knowledge on the technical side.
Apparently the problem is that it's not so easy to set up the voting mechanism on Maemo servers, and X-Fade is now leaving maemo.org duties, so it seems difficult to use his limited time to address this voting process.
Now, we are going to have a conf with X-Fade today before Council meeting (haven't received news from him on a lot of topics from quite a long time now) and we will discuss also about this question.
Please join us at #maemo-meeting either at 15:00 UTC or 18:00 UTC.
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2012-08-31
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2012-08-31
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2012-09-03
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2012-09-03
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2012-09-04
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Someone advised me that I should use "dput" in Ubuntu, however I am currently running on Windows. So can someone tell me is it possible to upload on Windows or I must install Ubuntu?
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2012-09-04
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2012-09-04
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At the moment I am not allowed to release source (I and my mentor are in dilemma since project on which I was working is at same time my diploma work).
Someone advised me that I should use "dput" in Ubuntu, however I am currently running on Windows. So can someone tell me is it possible to upload on Windows or I must install Ubuntu?
Quick...
Help! Screen (touchscreen, LCD screen, LED, light sensor, front camera - everything) is disconnected from the main body. The most I can do, is take photographs (or videos) blindly and restart the whole device (speakers are fine, and incoming calls are heard, but for some reason are regarded as missed calls very quickly, no chance to catch them). How can the hardware be repaired? Where can a manual be found? Thanks in advance.
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I'm keen to hear any proposals for voting from y'all out there, as it's arguably the most important part of the whole process. Writing off the top of my head right now, here's what i see as possibilities ranked in preferred order.
PROS: Same as we used last year. This will enable us to receive 'anonymous' votes in a desirably trustworthy manner, in accordance with council voting rules, from users with a desired criteria (certain amount of karma, etc).
CONS: It has not been confirmed either way, but the noises from council are that this option will not be available to us this time.
PROS: Simple to setup, anonymous
CONS: Not as secure or trusted as council voting mechanism, unable to pro-actively apply voter criteria (number of posts/karma etc). Any voter criteria would have to be applied in retrospect, and as votes are cast anonymously it would require co-ordination between Reggie and council to remove votes from duplicate ID/non-eligible voters.
PROS: Simple to setup.
CONS: Not as secure or trusted as council voting mechanism, unable to pro-actively apply voter criteria. Reggie required to remove duplicate IPs etc. Some users may feel put off from voting if everyone can see their choices.
PROS: Simple to setup, anonymous
CONS: PM mail box may not be large enough, may need continued filtering to receive all votes from users. Kojacker can apply any voter criteria manually by checking profiles etc after all votes cast but, as it's a manual process, this will take longer, Kojacker will have no social life for a while. No up-to-date feedback as given with a forum poll. Introduces possibility of more human error, Kojacker may succumb to bribery - hopefully of a sexual kind (females only).
PROS: We can take care of everything ourselves. No mail limit.
CONS: Loses some 'maemo.org legitimacy'. Longer set up time. Without someone logging into their maemo.org account, there's no way to tell you are who you claim to be. Still a slow, manual process for counting/applying voter criteria. Kojacker still humanly fallable and possibly corruptable (I'd love a Ferrari)
PROS: Easy
CONS: I don't think anyone wants this (especially the council )
Please let me know if you can think of any more options, or just your thoughts on the above.
Edit:
PROS: Maybe kojacker can take a break
CONS: I don't know anything more about it, I'd like to know more.
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