The point is, we are in lack of staff on all levels.
But I rest assured all volunteers here have good will.
Are you MC eV member already? - If not, get involved now and start something!

NO, just no, anonymity is also a virtue, not going to plaster my real name out there to fix org that doesn't even care about core values. Maybe when you guys turn the tide, so far there is really no reason to join this unless you want to join mcev drama (would modlogs help with that, frankly, no idea, could be)

edit: just to be clear, ppl used to be members and had full 'normal membership' included, now you need to provide your real name (address?) to vote on things that don't matter as in the end TMO and council have not signed 'we do whatever mcev tells us' agreement. Have that popcorn on yourselves, I'll watch from the shadows, this is not the old tmo that's for sure
edit2: goddamit we're going offtopic, anonymity and transparency, you have my vote, trying to override functioning system by privacy-deriding system that some members here still are not in agreement, new thread is needed

100% agreed.
WTF? plastering? out there? conspiracy theory?

And you don't fix MC eV by joining it, you're just leaving out an option to raise your voice.if you don't.

FOIA request? Are members not listed? Can I count on 'joining the club' while keeping my personal details secret? (we surely should move this to some other thread, but for transparency sake of MCEV, this is a little bit on topic)

F*CK, where's a mod when you need one?!


[edit] @ szopin, just ask yourself: where exactly starts self-censorship by anxity (introduced by whatever force/government)?

scared like fifa of all their wrongdoings being brought to light (this is a joke, just to make it clear, totally nothing against mods, just a fitting joke, nothing personal)

Self censorship is when you type f**k (with asterisks), as you know this forum treats us like children (this is also a thing we should stand up for and fight against, though maybe not until first blood). Not sure about anxity (anxiety? ancity? anzity?), but self-censorship is half way to hell, if you are afraid to say 'f**k that' because it might hurt someone's feelings and go for: I respectfully disagree. You just allowed your self censorship to castrate your idea/expression, welcome to 1984 or brave new world

Man...it doesn't matter where on this planet you are.
If Powers want to grab you...they'll grab you.
You think you have something they want ..they'll take it.
There is no hiding.
That being said.
Acting like you have something to hide doesn't help..
just attracts attention...
Even here...since forever the gov't has always taken names and pictures at protests and rallies...just so they have a list...
doesn't matter which party gets in.
It means if stuff goes down...they know who they are dealing with.
Essentially ..we expect our government to watch out for us...which they have done admirably...
it is a trick to balance the rights and privacy of the people (which they deserve) and the need for the state to be one step ahead of the really really bad guys ...so the innocent don't get hurt.
point in fact ...terrorism has had a rough time with us canadians ever since the FLQ Crisis of the early 70's ...because of our last great philosopher-king ...Prime Minister of Canada Pierre Trudeau ...a Socialist (gave the finger to the U.S. hehe..friend of Castro..defied the american insistence on canada joining the embargo against Cuba....a country Canada still loves to work with to this day....yea..Trudeau....love the guy....the man had panache..had guts...hehe...) ...very very famous clip and quote of his determination when dealing with a terrorist crisis here....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfUq9b1XTa0

I get that there are many places in this world...too many in fact...where fear rules...and for good reason...
Anyway ...I believe hiding isn't a solution to living...I also believe walking around fearing isn't a solution either...nor is broadcasting one's fears...nor broadcasting defiance nor open opposition...nor believing everything is fine...and walking around trying to be oblivious to it all...
Not easy...
But I do know everyone has to drop the fear first ...
Action or inaction... born out of fear usually doesn't work out well.

hm..the link won't work outside Canada...our national broadcaster here has copyright on the footage...
I'll send the 8 minute broadcasted impromptu interview directly to you szopin... ...20 second clips and sound bites really are terrible to sum up exactly what happened..
So yeah..I sent that clip to you....I'd post it here..but ...copyright and all...
Anyway...some background on the sitch in 1970...
Quebec had a very radical organization called the FLQ...
they believed that Quebec should secede from Canada...become it's own country...For the last hundred years there have been open debates ...referendums ...everyone has chimed in with their views, opinions, desires, no one has been left out of the process...everyone has been free to express their voice...always..to this day..such referendums resulted in Quebec voting to stay with Canada...this radical group figured that abducting Ministers...using them as held hostages and demanding that their specific demands be met...by the point of the gun.....1 of the hostages was shot dead...that was enough.
Trudeau sent in the army...not the police...not the reserves...he sent in the army...instituted Martial Law....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHaoBD-eakk
..oh yeah...he didn't mess around...
the clip is a gem....
one of the best ...concerning that situation....

SLA? and Stockholm Syndrome?
Naw...none of that applied here...
there was a difference here..
the hostages were actual hostages...
duly elected officials by majority vote, representatives of their people.
they weren't sympathetic...
one of them was shot dead by the FLQ while being held by them...
But anyway...my point to all this is that balancing act ...a legitimate government isn't voted in ...not to take care and guard their people...
the people want protection from terrorists...from the really bad people...(hell ...in the news right now in my country....our boys...our version of FBI/CIA just finished rounding up a very big powerful Mafia organization..big operation taking years of watching...waiting..) .thing is our country does honestly try pretty hard to respect people's rights and privacy...while trying to watch out for the trouble....it's a hard and challenging task...
not being vigilant and watchful enough ...and bad people sneak in...hurt alotta people...
overly protective and you are "Big Brother-ing" your population in the attempt to make sure no one gets hurt.
Anyway...Canada's response to the FLQ terror crisis sent a clear message...and we haven't had alotta probs since...We effectively said to the world.."You terrorists...don't try your crap with us..we're crazy...we don't negotiate with a gun pointed at our head...we'll take the bullet to the head...and spit out the bullet and then come straight for you..."
Real pivotal moment in Canadian history...

Anyway...I know my post may seem off topic...but there are relevant and topical points to all this...
I was trying to illustrate with a "real world" situation which occurred surrounding the difficulty of balancing the rights and privacy of the population...against... the need to scrutinize and screen everyone to make sure that everyone is being protected and that bad external or internal elements do not hurt the population which has voted you in to protect them...it isn't an easy job.

We allowed this to happen sadly, this is our internet, the internet we deserve for being so apathetic

Even sadder seeing this:

one more try, or maybe vimeo?

if the vid is 26 seconds long this works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTsQQ22Uwc

[this post was edited by a mod, reason: just watch me]

Symbionese Liberation Army with daughter of one of the richest men in this country of free united states did not just hold hostages, they killed people when gathering funds by robbing banks (that same daughter filmed holding an ak and taking part (diminished responsibility, she was in love (drugged))))
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0884842

Seriously something to watch, more people died thanks to SLA than in canada in that same time from natural terrorist causes :P

ok, I know this is ironic, but second that (is having modlogs public == mods hate you and will not help, I hope not, that would break the forum)