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I have heard that it is not possible to use pandora internet radio on the N770, and I'm assuming this would apply to other radio stations like Swiss Radio Classic.

However, since it works on the N800, can I use Pandora on the N770 if I upgraded to a newer operating system? Is it free to do so?

What external outputs does the N770 have to connect it to other devices such as a speaker system or stereo?

Am thinking about buying an N770...
 
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I sugest going for a newer n800 / n810. Now that the n900 is out those should be pretty cheap. The 770 has the wsod problems and it's software is way older than the one on the n800. Yes os2008 can be hacked on the 770 but I don't think it's worth the trouble.
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I still use my 770 daily.
As for Pandora, it looks like its "flash" based, so it's probably not likely.
There are some hacks to get a flash 9 player on the 770, but I'm not sure how well they work, or if Pandora requires 9 or 10...
(There is a thread here on this board on Flash 9 on the 770; I can tell you it didn't work with youtube.)

Basic Internet radio streaming works well however. Using either the built in app or mplayer.
(or other apps which also work)

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I don't have a 770 or I'd try to port at least pianobar over. The 770 is quite antiquated now. If you don't already have a 770, I would recommend going 800 or 810 as well and those do have Pandora Radio.. see sig.
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Originally Posted by icebox View Post
The 770 has the wsod problems
WSOD appears to be limited to a minority of devices (as Nokia has expressed it in a different context). If a 770 has not gone WSOD by now, it probably won't. Most sufferers from WSOD report that it happened while they were booting up with the charger attached. It is not difficult to avoid doing that. Before I heard about the boot-charger-WSOD connection, I used to boot my 770 up on the charger all the time. It never did any damage, but now I avoid it just in case.

and it's software is way older than the one on the n800.
OS2008HE is newer than the software that comes supplied with the N800. It is a tight fit in the 770's internal flash but runs very well if you clone it to a partition of at least 500MB on a media card. This forum contains a lot of information about cloning the rootfs. You might also find it helpful to search for "Fanoush kernel": the 770 runs slowly by 2010 standards, but it can be made much faster with Fanoush's 48 MHz kernel modification.

Cloning to the MMC is also a good idea on the N800, and many users report finding it helpful on the N810.

At one time it was difficult to find a larger-capacity replacement for the 770's original 64 MB media card. (It has to be RS-MMC or MMC-mobile, not SD.) These days, you can buy a 2GB MMC-mobile on eBay for under $9, including shipping from Hong Kong to anywhere in the world. (That is a fixed price, not an auction.)

Yes os2008 can be hacked on the 770 but I don't think it's worth the trouble.
Maybe you should try. As noted above, most of the "trouble" involved is the cloning to MMC, which you would also have to do if you want to get the best out of N800 or N810. While partitioning the MMC, it is a good idea to create a large swap partition. At present, I have a 704 MB bootable partition and a 388 MB swap partition on a 2GB MMC-mobile card. Without a large amount of swap, the browser is inclined to crash frequently in OS2008HE, but this problem is fixed by adequate swap.

My wife and I have often listened to Venice Classic Radio on the 770's OS2008HE Media Player (not Pandora). Radio Swiss Classic is in the Media Player's directory, but I regret that I am using a 56K dialup connection at the moment and cannot report on the quality of reception for the Swiss station. [EDIT: I've listened to it now, and it sounds good. It also works well at room volume when the 770's output is fed through a stereo.]

When we listen to Venice Classic on a broadband connection, we get excellent results using two pairs of earbuds with a two-way splitter. The 770's loudspeaker does not give good sound. However, if you love classical music, you won't like the sound from the N800's speakers, either. I can not give an opinion about the N810.

There are some very nice things about the N8x0 (screen rotation has finally been perfected for the Diablo OS, for example), but the 770 still has its uses. There is nothing wrong with it for internet radio. If you don't want to use earbuds, you can connect the 770's audio output to the auxiliary input of your stereo system. As mentioned before, the N800's speakers are not good enough for classical music, either.

I don't know where icebox gets his information about the abundant supply of N800 and N810 at low prices. The opposite is being reported by other members of the forum (qole, for example). The 770, on the other hand, really is available at low prices. It is around $55 for a well-kept one from an eBay seller with 100% positive feedback. You can probably get one for much less, if you don't mind a few scratches or the absence of original earbuds/MMC/charger/USB cable.

[PS : FURTHER COMMENTS ON OS2008HE. The only problem I have had with OS2008HE is that the Image Viewer needs more processing power than the 770 can provide. It is inclined to freeze and crash if you try to view image files larger than 2 MB each in quick succession. It is very slow at editing images (i.e. tasks such as reducing the files to a suitable size for email attachments).

Poor experience with the Image Viewer in OS2008HE was one of my main reasons for buying a N800 a few months ago. Ironically, the N800 and N810 do not interact well with cameras. They are more user-friendly than the 770 for USB connections of the simplest kind, but they get into serious trouble with more complicated gadgets: see https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3281 . USB host mode takes more preparation on the 770. However, once activated, it uses a desktop-quality OHCI controller and can run applications such as gphoto2 without problems.]

Last edited by scaler; 2010-03-09 at 15:45. Reason: Reported on Swiss Classic reception.
 
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I have Flash 9 installed on my OS 2007HE N770. Pandora is indeed Flash based. It will load extremely slowly, then after typing in the artist, it will continue to load extremely slowly and finally crash the browser.

For YouTube, there's a thread on how to install myTube, which works quite nicely on an OS 2007HE N770.
 
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Reading the OP, it is clear that the writer is interested in playing internet radio at room volume, possibly by feeding the 770's output through a stereo system. The reference to Pandora is merely incidental. He or she does not yet own a Maemo device, and perhaps assumed that Pandora would be the easiest way to do it. It is not. (I think everyone can agree on that.)

Unfortunately, the title of the thread focuses on Pandora. It is attracting replies that also focus on Pandora instead of the OP's problem. To get away from this, I have posted a reply in a new thread, with a title expressing what the OP seems to be asking about:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=46876 .

The new thread's title still doesn't quite pin the topic down. A better one would be:
770 as "tuner" for Radio Swiss Classic or other internet radio .

I tried to make the change but it didn't work. Does anyone know how to change the title of a thread in this forum?

Last edited by scaler; 2010-03-09 at 16:53.
 
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