Originally Posted by woody14619

True story (From my point of view): A few months ago I wound up in a verbal sparing match with someone here. This person had very little positive to say about the N900, commented that he didn't have one, and was unlikely to get one. He also said a few things that (IMO) were out of date and/or misleading about the N900. (Like it lacked MMS support when there was clearly a community app to handle it.) The posts I saw from this user (for about 2 weeks) were plentiful and almost all negative. Based on that, I mistakenly pegged him as a troll, and started treating him like one. That person was Gerbick, who is a long term community member.

The problem here was multi-faceted. I was somewhat new, and hadn't noticed the post/thank counters (also in small grey font). I also have a penchant for jumping into things full bore, and probably mistook some of what was legitimate disappointment in the N900 line to be hostility toward the platform and community. But another factor (again IMO) was that he expected (and in one post demanded) that people respect his opinion and not challenge it in the forum with points that countered it, especially if one was a "noob". (The phrase STFU was used... ) Also there was a general attitude of "I know better because I've been here longer", that wasn't exactly welcoming.

We settled our "differences" without it getting too terribly ugly (neither of us were moderated or caused a thread closure). And of late have actually started to notice that in many cases we align in some respects (this topic being a prime example).

Originally Posted by woody14619

This forum is not what it was a year ago (or even 5 months ago). The N900 has been a game changer in many respects, probably more than was expected. The N900 members now probably outnumber the older members by a rather high ratio (I smell a poll wanting to be taken). But the forum as a whole has not adapted to support the influx of new people. Part of the frustration happening here is because the solution the community has used for the past several years has not scaled well. That needs to be acknowledged and address, and I think that's being addressed here/now.

Not feeding trolls works on small forums with low activity, or where it's clear that the forum is not affiliated with the manufacturer. This forum no longer qualifies for either condition. The rules have changed, like it or not. The question isn't should we adjust, it's how do we adjust. And yes, I also vote +1 for a separate area to move such threads or sub-segments to, in a hope to quell the signal/noise level.

Originally Posted by penguinbait

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This is all just my opinion, however I believe some of what goes on here is perpetuated by the people who are vigilantly trying to stop it.

There has to be a better way......

Originally Posted by abill_uk

What this community needs is a complete overhaul of pointless threads and delete the lot !.
Moderating is becoming a nightmare dealing with the complaints, troll's - whiners etc etc and we can only put the blame to Nokia for releasing in the way they did along with all the media the so called FLAGSHIP N900 which has turned out to be a downfall in many respects for Nokia and this being the true Meamo N900 forum that is splattered all over every search engine bringing everyone to it !.
OK we all know the N900 has it's pitfalls BUT please consider at least that this very forum is the saviour of the device as it has got many developers working hard to rectify the shortfalls from Nokia.
Everyone now knows the shortfalls and if you get rid of the senceless threads you will end up with the answers to almost every problem the N900 has thanks to the members of this forum.
After owning the N900 since early february and after literally stripping it down looking at schematics and the actuall hardware i can tell you one thing here that the device has endless limits to play and modify and i know in my own mind that all the current missing features can be implemented along with the only real fault the USB port having a very simple fix to make it solid on the pcb.
For all the pitfalls of the N900 if everyone just wait's a few month you will see a device that can do almost anything that a pc is capable of and as a phone has the capabilities of anything on the market for a very long time to come.
My opinion for what it is worth is to close and delete any thread that even hints of arguments and agression immediatly it appears leaving the forum for what it should be used for ....PROGRESSION.
Little do you lot realise that the N900 will actually turn out to be a FLAGSHIP simply because it has endless capabilities and all everyone needs here is a little bit of time for people with the knowledge to do what Nokia should be doing and are doing for free !!! remember that before criticizing !!!.
Reggie please look at the possibility of deleting every single useless thread so that we can search a lot easier through here and find the answers we need for the device we have... time to have a clearout.

Originally Posted by abill_uk

Are you off again Ysss or do you just love to rant on lol.
Could you possibly be a little more specific in what your actually trying to say here?.

Originally Posted by tswindell

Personally, I don't mind all the dissappointed users rantings on the forum, I see those threads and don't even look at them. The only issue, personally, that I have is that they overwhelm all the recent activity that I'm actually interested in. I'm sure everyday I miss important interesting announcements and such, can we not just make a tag that we can use for threads that don't have any kind of valid information for our devices and community. I think all off-topic could probably be removed from the general recent activity too.

Originally Posted by abill_uk

What this community needs is a complete overhaul of pointless threads and delete the lot !.

Moderating is becoming a nightmare dealing with the complaints, troll's - whiners etc etc and we can only put the blame to Nokia for releasing in the way they did along with all the media the so called FLAGSHIP N900 which has turned out to be a downfall in many respects for Nokia and this being the true Meamo N900 forum that is splattered all over every search engine bringing everyone to it !.

OK we all know the N900 has it's pitfalls BUT please consider at least that this very forum is the saviour of the device as it has got many developers working hard to rectify the shortfalls from Nokia.

Everyone now knows the shortfalls and if you get rid of the senceless threads you will end up with the answers to almost every problem the N900 has thanks to the members of this forum.

After owning the N900 since early february and after literally stripping it down looking at schematics and the actuall hardware i can tell you one thing here that the device has endless limits to play and modify and i know in my own mind that all the current missing features can be implemented along with the only real fault the USB port having a very simple fix to make it solid on the pcb.

For all the pitfalls of the N900 if everyone just wait's a few month you will see a device that can do almost anything that a pc is capable of and as a phone has the capabilities of anything on the market for a very long time to come.

My opinion for what it is worth is to close and delete any thread that even hints of arguments and agression immediatly it appears leaving the forum for what it should be used for ....PROGRESSION.

Little do you lot realise that the N900 will actually turn out to be a FLAGSHIP simply because it has endless capabilities and all everyone needs here is a little bit of time for people with the knowledge to do what Nokia should be doing and are doing for free !!! remember that before criticizing !!!.

Reggie please look at the possibility of deleting every single useless thread so that we can search a lot easier through here and find the answers we need for the device we have... time to have a clearout.

Originally Posted by penguinbait

I will reiterate....

Please, understand we need to change.....