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2008-11-05
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I know what has been said repeatedly, and I can think of numerous things that have been said repeatedly throughout history that turned out not to be true. I imagine that there are factions with different opinions in Nokia, as in all companies, and changes can take place suddenly.
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2008-11-05
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Originally Posted by qgil
The problem becomes one of what I am qualified for. Right now that's 2 posted positions only, and given the number of people impacted the competition will be fierce. I am not optimisitic.
One possibility is that you are a short term victim of a general rule but will recover (soon?) when finding out the exceptions. At the end Nokia as a whole keeps having a stable workforce, if not growing. You have been promoted in your role, which means that the company thinks you're a good employee. Now macro decisions have affected this, but you keep your chances in the micro moves since Nokia is keeping buildings and operations in the city you currently work.
I worry about the NRC folks too. Seems to me the company should be bending over backwards keeping them some way, somehow.
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2008-11-05
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Originally Posted by Texrat
Fortunately for TexRat, Obama is President. The modern liberal socialists in the USA have become victorious. The Congress and now the White House are controlled by the socialists. TexRat will be fine as there will be massive social benefits to care for him now that he is unemployed and into the foreseeable future.
The problem becomes one of what I am qualified for. Right now that's 2 posted positions only, and given the number of people impacted the competition will be fierce. I am not optimisitic.
I worry about the NRC folks too. Seems to me the company should be bending over backwards keeping them some way, somehow.
The speed limit on the The Road to Serfdom (Hayek) was just lifted so speed on my misguided socialist friends.
No need to find a new job Tex. Obama and the Democrat controlled Congress will see to it that you are housed and fed. The price is small......your liberty.
Speed on modern liberals.
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2008-11-05
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xxM5xx goes off-topic and spews drivel.
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2008-11-05
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Originally Posted by geneven
Yeah, well excuse me. I had something to say and it RELATES to people losing their jobs.
xxM5xx goes off-topic and spews drivel.
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2008-11-05
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Originally Posted by xxM5xx
As usual you are so full of ****.
Fortunately for TexRat, Obama is President. The modern liberal socialists in the USA have become victorious. The Congress and now the White House are controlled by the socialists. TexRat will be fine as there will be massive social benefits to care for him now that he is unemployed and into the foreseeable future.
The speed limit on the The Road to Serfdom (Hayek) was just lifted so speed on my misguided socialist friends.
No need to find a new job Tex. Obama and the Democrat controlled Congress will see to it that you are housed and fed. The price is small......your liberty.
Speed on modern liberals.
I want to WORK. I want no handouts. And if you bothered to get your head out of your narrow-focused dogma for once and examine data you'd find that the so-called party of jobs and wealth has been a big proponent of modern-day enslavement programs like welfare. In addition, our liberties were SEVERELY curtailed by alleged republican Bush and company but your propaganda-driven ideology fails to factor that as well (I say alleged because he is Republican in label only).
Check the voting records instead of spouting off in ignorance. Looks like you could use the educational experience.
Originally Posted by xxM5xx
No, you didn't and no, it doesn't. As loathe as I am to acknowledge it there is historically more jobs growth under democrats than republicans.
Yeah, well excuse me. I had something to say and it RELATES to people losing their jobs.
Data trumps opinion.
Long live the common-sense centrists... there are so few of us left it seems...
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2008-11-05
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Road to Serfdom........read it and learn. I am glad you are willing to work. I don't think I said you weren't willing to work. I said with what happened yesterday our society is now doomed. If you like going to the DMV you'll love socialized medicine.
It is no coincidence that the highest taxes are found in States ( California, NY, Mass. ) that traditionally vote Democrat. Checks and balances related to growth of government, expansion of socialism here are now removed. Modern liberals are now free to do all the things they wish.
All of us working people (you included) will be taxed and simultaneously lose liberties at an unprecedented level. Say goodbye to America as it was, and say hello to the new America. It isn't pretty.
You can give the Democrats credit for job growth, fact is it is the product of the previous administration's actions. Now that we will be stuck with Democrats running everything for decades to come, America's "good run" has come to the end of the road.
People getting laid off is very related to economics, economics is related to government actions (or inaction). We are screwed.
Get ready for open borders, welfare, driver's licenses, and social security for illegal immigrants. Then they vote and keep the socialist in office to keep the gravy train rolling. We are screwed.
General Motors and Ford (& Chrysler) will soon be taken over and run by the Federal Gov., as will be the banks and other things.
Road to Serfdom. You don't agree with what is written there Tex? Okay....so you should be a Nobel Laureate in Economics instead of F.A. Hayek, right?
It is no coincidence that the highest taxes are found in States ( California, NY, Mass. ) that traditionally vote Democrat. Checks and balances related to growth of government, expansion of socialism here are now removed. Modern liberals are now free to do all the things they wish.
All of us working people (you included) will be taxed and simultaneously lose liberties at an unprecedented level. Say goodbye to America as it was, and say hello to the new America. It isn't pretty.
You can give the Democrats credit for job growth, fact is it is the product of the previous administration's actions. Now that we will be stuck with Democrats running everything for decades to come, America's "good run" has come to the end of the road.
People getting laid off is very related to economics, economics is related to government actions (or inaction). We are screwed.
Get ready for open borders, welfare, driver's licenses, and social security for illegal immigrants. Then they vote and keep the socialist in office to keep the gravy train rolling. We are screwed.
General Motors and Ford (& Chrysler) will soon be taken over and run by the Federal Gov., as will be the banks and other things.
Road to Serfdom. You don't agree with what is written there Tex? Okay....so you should be a Nobel Laureate in Economics instead of F.A. Hayek, right?
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2008-11-05
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Originally Posted by xxM5xx
But wait, Paul Krugman has a Nobel and he disagrees with Hayek. OMG!!!!!!!!!!! An Appeal to Authority vortex!!!!!!! Whatever shall we do!!!! Quick, cast about for the next best logical fallacy before we all start thinking for ourselves!!
Road to Serfdom. You don't agree with what is written there Tex? Okay....so you should be a Nobel Laureate in Economics instead of F.A. Hayek, right?
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2008-11-05
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What could anyone say, except... Go Obama! 
(And Governor Palin, from the Socialist State of Alaska.)
(And Governor Palin, from the Socialist State of Alaska.)
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2008-11-05
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Originally Posted by lm2
LOL..... Hayek won his first !
But wait, Paul Krugman has a Nobel and he disagrees with Hayek. OMG!!!!!!!!!!! An Appeal to Authority vortex!!!!!!! Whatever shall we do!!!! Quick, cast about for the next best logical fallacy before we all start thinking for ourselves!!