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2014-08-10
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Originally Posted by jalyst
+1 on your +1 Jalyst
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Don't really care about ugradeability/customisability, just make it great OOTB...
So long as it's quite versatile,* & has excellent built-in functionality/utility/usability, that's enough.
Then you'll have a solid device, that won't cost as much as a device that also focuses on ugradeability/customisability.
But I know from an ODM's POV (i.e. you), the latter might be more appealing...
*& hence mitigates the need for ugradeability/customisability
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2014-08-11
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€150 is a lot of money for a keyboard...
But hey, there isn't an alternative, so maybe I'll pay it. But....
For that price I want to be 100% sure it's good.
I want to try it, keys have to work flawless. No double presses, no multikey presses because of the design of the keys (small, middle of key has to be higher, as on N900).
Design doesn't have to be top-notch, but it should look like a normal keyboard. Not like this one:
Why not: black board in white plastic. Can be done better. It looks DIY, not €150. Metal hinges visible. Could house a bigger board (or in such a way the camera is always unobstructed).
For €150 I also don't expect "mickey-mouse"-solutions. It doesn't need a lot of extra power, it works (no instability issues) and no switching on/waiting things. I think it's ok to switch it on, but then it needs to work right away.
That's my cup of tea. I want to pay that much for it, but it should be worth the price. And: a minimum of 2 years normal guarantee.
But hey, there isn't an alternative, so maybe I'll pay it. But....
For that price I want to be 100% sure it's good.
I want to try it, keys have to work flawless. No double presses, no multikey presses because of the design of the keys (small, middle of key has to be higher, as on N900).
Design doesn't have to be top-notch, but it should look like a normal keyboard. Not like this one:
Why not: black board in white plastic. Can be done better. It looks DIY, not €150. Metal hinges visible. Could house a bigger board (or in such a way the camera is always unobstructed).
For €150 I also don't expect "mickey-mouse"-solutions. It doesn't need a lot of extra power, it works (no instability issues) and no switching on/waiting things. I think it's ok to switch it on, but then it needs to work right away.
That's my cup of tea. I want to pay that much for it, but it should be worth the price. And: a minimum of 2 years normal guarantee.
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2014-08-11
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I'd be ready to fork out 150€ if it's a quality thing, that is, it works as it's supposed to, both with native and Android apps. That being said, I'd prefer the extra money to go into testing and enhancing build quality (removing glitches, double presses, pimping up the software etc.), rather then customization and design frills. I couldn't care less about those.
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2014-08-11
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Ok, thanks for the replies!
What I understand:
-custom colours and materials is not wanted
-typing experience should be flawless
-higher price possible, but comes with huge expectations
-software should be fully integrated
Some remarks:
-custom colours is possible, but has to be decided somewhat early in process, it affects the design. if this is not wanted by you, makes live easier for me. during rev1 had some requests for different colours, hence the question/idea
-the whole camera covering issue will not go away, because the camera is in the middle. it will leave a big hole in your keypad. but i have a trick up my sleeve to eliminate this issue
-the focus is on making it more professional, so no DIY solutions. this is a major focus point
-keypad will be bigger
If there are people that want to add anything, or disagree about anything, shout out!
What I understand:
-custom colours and materials is not wanted
-typing experience should be flawless
-higher price possible, but comes with huge expectations
-software should be fully integrated
Some remarks:
-custom colours is possible, but has to be decided somewhat early in process, it affects the design. if this is not wanted by you, makes live easier for me. during rev1 had some requests for different colours, hence the question/idea
-the whole camera covering issue will not go away, because the camera is in the middle. it will leave a big hole in your keypad. but i have a trick up my sleeve to eliminate this issue
-the focus is on making it more professional, so no DIY solutions. this is a major focus point
-keypad will be bigger
If there are people that want to add anything, or disagree about anything, shout out!
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2014-08-11
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#86
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Originally Posted by dirkvl
These are by far the most important points IMO...
-typing experience should be flawless
-it will leave a big hole in your keypad. but i have a trick up my sleeve to eliminate this issue
-the focus is on making it more professional, so no DIY solutions. this is a major focus point
-keypad will be bigger
Focus on them & only them & you'll have a better chance at executing very solidly, hence (possibly) justifying the asking price, whilst also increasing speed of delivery.
Once you've nailed that sharpened focus, you can broaden it further with the 3rd TOHKBD iteration.
Last edited by jalyst; 2014-08-11 at 16:48. Reason: typo
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2014-08-11
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#87
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Originally Posted by rentze
^This.
That being said, I'd prefer the extra money to go into testing and enhancing build quality (removing glitches, double presses, pimping up the software etc.), rather then customization and design frills. I couldn't care less about those.
Focus hw/sw/design quality, forget about customisability, for now at least.
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2014-08-11
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#88
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I would find it nice to have different keyboard layouts to chose from. Just would love to have a qwertz Keyboard. More customizability isn't necessary in my opinion.
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2014-08-11
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-the whole camera covering issue will not go away, because the camera is in the middle. it will leave a big hole in your keypad. but i have a trick up my sleeve to eliminate this issue
Huge expectations is maybe a little bit much....because it's still a bit DIY (by you), but I do expect it works good and it does look good.
The rest what's mentioned: sounds great.
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2014-08-11
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Originally Posted by dirkvl
But
I am in favor of full custom keyboard and 150 sounds good
Originally Posted by robnas
What means that I care most about functionality
For that price I want to be 100% sure it's good.
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Don't really care about ugradeability/customisability, just make it great OOTB...
So long as it's quite versatile,* & has excellent built-in functionality/utility/usability, that's enough.
Then you'll have a solid device, that won't cost as much as a device that also focuses on ugradeability/customisability.
But I know from an ODM's POV (i.e. you), the latter might be more appealing...
*& hence mitigates the need for ugradeability/customisability
Last edited by jalyst; 2014-08-10 at 16:32.