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#31
Hmm
Well I wouldn't say Maemo is dead.
Freemantle coming is a good example of it being active.
Community members still tweaking the os and programs....
As well there are programs still being ported and created for the platform...
Amoungst other things...
So I personally disagree...others may share your sentiment however...but personally i don't.

I think too that methods of pressure that have been thought out to get some movement to relinquish data from Nokia have been...shall I say...a little medieval perhaps? A little backward in fact ...considering the amount of brain-power that our community has.

The method of approach to appeal to Nokia has been to ask them...beg them....flood them with requests...and Gerbick has it right....Elop....hahaha. Yup the buck would certainly stop there.

Many members I am sure feel handcuffed, restrained or simply shut out or imprisoned by Nokia not releasing (essentially now) antiquated data to the community.

Well...think about it guys....if you are in prison....you don't appeal to the warden
You get people who can commiserate ....FROM OUTSIDE THE SITUATION.

THAT would put the necessary pressure on Nokia to help however they truly could.

Social Media.
News loves 'em.
People love 'em.
Seems to be doing wonders in ALL kinds of situations.
I don't Facebook.
But I do Twitter.
Get a public movement going on social media and for sure it'll have the desired impact you wish...
Hopefully Nokia has stuff to release...

Get 'er going and I'm sure scads and scads of people will sign.

I'll sign
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Originally Posted by SHARP66 View Post
Do we have power?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jnv0ejmLlY
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#33
'Zactly
hehe

If no one was doing nothing ...
If nothing was being worked on or developed
...we wouldn't have any power whatsoever.

The Question was...
Do we have the power?

Considering all the people here
doing and making all kinds of stuff in our community...
I think we got plenty of power.
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Originally Posted by hardy_magnus View Post
we already know nothings gonna happen but why not try something even if its stupid and f*ck felop , that trojan pis*ed off every nokia fan.
If nothing is going to happen, then why waste the energy? Mer, Jolla and other endeavors exist. Why not use that wasted energy on Nokia/Maemo and use it on something else that's ongoing and (more) open?

Elop probably was the absolute worst candidate for a CEO I've ever seen. Macromedia and Boston Chicken both suffered at his hands. Nokia, no less.

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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
If nothing is going to happen, then why waste the energy?

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I said that because i want to pis* them off and nothing else. 50k emails at the same time . i want to see what happens next.
a) maemo community/ maemo going super hot in media.
b) email servers feeling the rage / Microsoft confused.
c) more people joining community.
d) elop commits suicide.

and what do u think whats gonna happen?
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#36
I would surmise that without appealing for public awareness/ support and media involvement FIRST ....and instead simply hitting them with 50 000 emails will not result in public awareness/ support nor media involvement.
But it most assuredly will garner their anger.
It will achieve your desired result and it will achieve your desire to see what they would do next ...and since M$ is calling the shots I would say that there is a 99.9% chance it would not be pleasant.
I think that until we ...as a community... can safely distance ourselves from any possible reciprocated assaults ...especially ones that involve the public and media not being alerted 1st before shooting across the bow of microsoft. Public opinion would soften M$ and hopefully they would make a public show of kindness and generosity...
Simply waking and angering the sleeping giant without anyone watching ...out of sight....will not end well.

I am so in...if the desire is to aim AWAY from M$ and aim directly at public awareness and media involvement ...thereby bringing M$ to us...to help however they can...with the world watching...

But.... If you wish to shoot 1st...by firing off 50 000 emails...out of pure angst....then really ...it is about sharing your suicidal desire for the community to go down burning with you...
Then I am so out.
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Originally Posted by hardy_magnus View Post
I said that because i want to pis* them off and nothing else. 50k emails at the same time . i want to see what happens next.
It's been noted that being a nuisance is not the kind of attention that will assist you in your endeavors. In fact, it'll do just the opposite.

a) maemo community/ maemo going super hot in media.
This has never happened. Maemo has always been for great thinkers, tinkerers, hackers and folks that aren't happy with the status quo. Sadly, we're outnumbered by the masses that are just fine with iOS and Android.

b) email servers feeling the rage / Microsoft confused.
They have competent MS Exchange server admins and filters. You'll be filtered out before you make a dent or become noticed.

c) more people joining community.
Doubtful. The golden days are behind us; fate was sealed by a certain board/committee that saw fit to stuffing their pockets and their coffers with devices that would have better served actual and active developers instead of politickers and *** kissers. My disdain for what this community (in some aspects and personas) has become is well known.

d) elop commits suicide.
If his divorce didn't make him contemplate suicide, doubtful that a surge in e-mails would either. Choose a more effective tactic. One that uses diplomacy for maximum efficiency perhaps.

and what do u think whats gonna happen?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing. People will continue to reminisce about Maemo and the promise of MeeGo like folks did about Zaurus and Psion. Ahead of its time, taken down by not appealing to the masses.

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OK friends. bad idea i agree. its not my fault, its the bullb that glows once in a few light years above my head.
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#39
I completely understand and commiserate.
Keep the fire burnin' though...
"...Anger is an energy...Anger is an energy...Anger is an energy..." - P.I.L.
Just focus it calmly..
and aim it purposefully.
It's ok ...really ..to blow a gasket and get upset...throw an idea around and vent..It's our job as your friends to calm it down...help you focus it. We'd be a poor and truly pitiful community if we just dismissed our fellow members and their justifiable upset...now would we?

You still want that change with the best possible outcome?
Honest...start a twitter page and let the tears of injustice flow...about how the public has been denied a meaningful platform in this post Snowden age of darkness...by the corporations...no less. Tell the truth of course...but- Play it up.
Every trick you can to illicit sympathy...(that doesn't go too far of course)
And I'm sure more will join the community with proper public awareness and the Powers That Be ...may just give us a hand.

If you still want to do that I'm in....
I'll throw whatever input I can...
but I must admit I'm a tad bit busy...
but what I will be showing this coming week....
well you could definitely use it to lure new community members into joining...
'nfact it should drive people in droves.
NO ONE . NO WHERE . NO CORP. NO COMMUNITY. NO DEVICE LINE ...will have what I will offer....here...
And it's just the start...
Glad you got your "calm" on man...
keep the fire...
use it....
bring people to us...
lure the Powers to come help.
And I'm back in...

"+1" me.... man...
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#40
I drink-ed some bear again. Why Don't We Have "Fusion" Power? ? I want to fill some power when I say "maemo".
I do not care about Nokia left maemo. Or bytes that are hidden.
I wan't to have a stronger community. First of all a queen. We can make a queen from any girl or woman who deserve and we can make her powerful = (make us powerful).

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