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jsa	2010-02-01 , 12:38
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Originally Posted by cashclientel

If Google ported it properly it would be. 'Better' is ambiguous but I think for all but the Linux hardcore, Android is a better user experience at the moment.

The point is that Google won't. Google makes the platform, it's the manufacturers that port the platform on their phones. There seems to be a lot of confusion about this. Now that's what I was assuming with my reply. Google won't port anything, it's up to the community and I can't see the community achieving a port on N900 that would have as much features, applications, reliability and support as manufacturers offer with their Android phones.

SE are manging quite well (X10 anyone?). At the moment they're mainly WinMO based. The OS runs, it's just a matter of drivers and optimisation. These big companies have the capacity to do this with ease.

Considering that you can't actually buy it anywhere yet, and the last I heard(rumours, yes) was that it was delayed to March maybe it isn't as easy as you think?

Community hacks/ports of Andriod or Maemo 6 are not the answer.

Unfortunately I think they are the only answer _if_ Nokia won't release an official Maemo 6 update. And that we don't know yet.

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	cashclientel	2010-02-01 , 13:36
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Originally Posted by johnel

If you want shiny guis, apps and entertainment then there are numerous android phones and iPhones to choose from.

Most people do and this is where Nokia will undoubtedly head.

Originally Posted by johnel

But to come onto a maemo-focused forum and say "..android should run on it instead of maemo because it is better.." is ******ed.

My initial argument was that Andriod would be a good next step for the N900 post Maemo 5.

Originally Posted by johnel

Why are you here and why buy an n900(if you did)?

I did, and I like the N900 as hardware. I just see the shortcomings with Maemo as software.

Originally Posted by johnel

If Nokia do decide to ignore the n900 then the community will still develop software for it. I can develop software for it - it's open source. This also means that maemo & Mer can continue to improve without Nokia's influence.

All true, but you've not attached any weight or size to these things. The current community and number/quality of applications is not comparable to the other major platforms. There's one proper game (Angry Birds) and a handful of actually useful apps. This will improve over time but no where near as quickly as other platforms.

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c0rt3x	2010-02-01 , 17:32
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Originally Posted by cashclientel

Most people do and this is where Nokia will undoubtedly head.

My initial argument was that Andriod would be a good next step for the N900 post Maemo 5.

I did, and I like the N900 as hardware. I just see the shortcomings with Maemo as software.

All true, but you've not attached any weight or size to these things. The current community and number/quality of applications is not comparable to the other major platforms. There's one proper game (Angry Birds) and a handful of actually useful apps. This will improve over time but no where near as quickly as other platforms.

There are way more commercial apps currently availible for Maemo 5 than you think, they're just not availible for you yet. EA Mobile has already ported a bunch of games for the N900 (possibly due a request from Nokia), and this has been advertised in some magazines...

...but Ovi Store is still in Beta status, and doesn't support paid apps. Except to see FIFA10, Spore, Boom Blox and the like from EA when Ovi Store will support paid apps - whether it will be sooner rather than later I don't know, I just know something is coming, and that something isn't trash like the average Iphone app (since those games were ported on Nokia's request?).

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UNderworld	2010-02-08 , 23:09
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I doubt ANY phone will be stable by porting another OS in it... U will most likely find some bug...even with all the perfect drivers etc, there will still be bugs somewhere somehow........and no android user will be able to help because its simply "not an android device".....

Nokia will still release software updates... I got an sms a few weeks ago that there is a software update for the N95.. :S ... BUT it wont be that often that they release the updates....

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wmarone	2010-02-08 , 23:20
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Originally Posted by cashclientel

My initial argument was that Andriod would be a good next step for the N900 post Maemo 5.

No, it won't. Android provides -nothing- that makes Maemo so powerful. Namely, it lacks not being bottled up in a JVM with an Android-only class library.

Rather than screwing around with Android I'd look to Mer for support. If you ask me, moving to Android would be crippling my device.

I did, and I like the N900 as hardware. I just see the shortcomings with Maemo as software.

Then why didn't you buy an Android device to start?

The current community and number/quality of applications is not comparable to the other major platforms.

The limited and fractured communities of other platforms, who have zero say in the future of the OS on their device?

There's one proper game (Angry Birds) and a handful of actually useful apps. This will improve over time but no where near as quickly as other platforms.

I know, we just don't have that mass explosion of thousands of fart apps, or utilities that cost a buck or two that perform some trivial function.

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Crashdamage	2010-02-09 , 00:03
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Everybody needs to relax about the future of the N900. Why?

1. Maemo 5 won't stop working because Maemo 6 is out. It will be as terrific as ever.

2. The N900 might get upgraded to Maemo 6. Still yet to be determined.

3. Maemo 6 apps will be QT-based. But QT 4.6 is ported to Maemo 5, so most (if not all) Maemo 6 apps will run on Maemo 5. So Nokia's plan is...the N900/Maemo 5 will continue to be able to run new, cool stuff for a long time, even if it never gets the 5-to-6 upgrade.

4. Nokia (qgil, actually) has already publicly stated - here in this very forum - that right now, Nokia has more than just bugfixes already in the works for Maemo 5 and the N900. Speculate all you want as to what those improvements might be and when they will be implemented. But the point is that more is definitely on the way for the N900. It has not and will not be abandoned anytime soon by Nokia.

Now, given all that, where's the problem?

And why why why would anyone want to replace the most powerful, extensible mobile OS on the planet with friggin' Android? Jeez...90% of why I bought a N900 was to get Maemo and to get rid of Android.

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	danramos	2010-02-09 , 00:17
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I don't like the N900.. and I rather LOVE my Android.. and even *I* think that this thread is rubbish. :P

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	Texrat	2010-02-09 , 00:25
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Originally Posted by cashclientel

One of my biggest concerns with the N900 is that the OS (and community) will dry up as soon as the next device comes out sporting Maemo 6.

This community still supports all the way back to the 770.

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Viipottaja	2010-02-09 , 00:33
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i would have bought Nexus if I wanted to be google's *****. i much rather be nokia's..

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	pagesix1536	2010-02-09 , 00:34
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so.... isnt Android just a VM environment running on top of linux kernel? In theory wouldn't it be possible to boot Maemo, and then launch the Android engine on top of that if all were properly compiled/coded/configured? Interesting idea to have Android just be an "app" that can be launced on Maemo.

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