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2013-09-03 , 16:40
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Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
What is the market price for jolla? 20 million Euro? Why not buy it, nokia. start from scratch and give sailfish a real chance to make it.
That would be the best thing ever indeed.

Or actually the best scenario would be, WP sales start declining fast as Nokia brand disappears. Nokia keeps its ~ 20 billion dollar net cash reserves and takes profits from its patents and NSN.

Then come 2015, year after the MS Nokia deal is done, Nokia buys Jolla and 2016 releases first Nokia "Jolla" phone.
That would be pretty amazing, but that will be a long road away.
 

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2013-09-03 , 16:42
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
It all makes sense in the grand scheme of things. Ballmer is retiring and they had to keep Nokia manufacturing phones for them until others jump on the wp8 bandwagon. Nokia board engineered it all well and got rid of many headaches.
Its MS jumping now. No other OEM is touching that crap. Ok if somebody wants to sell their businses or end it, then maybe.
 
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2013-09-03 , 16:44
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Wait... I have not read this from the links posted yet (been at work) but is Elop leaving? !!!!


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/03/te...ader.html?_r=0

Is it really true
 
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2013-09-03 , 17:00
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Originally Posted by MINKIN2 View Post
Wait... I have not read this from the links posted yet (been at work) but is Elop leaving? !!!!


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/03/te...ader.html?_r=0

Is it really true
Actually he's sort of staying.

The thing he's staying at (Nokia devices & services) is moving to MS. He moves with it.
 

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2013-09-03 , 17:54
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My understanding was that Nokia is restricted to use the Nokia branding on their products till 2016. Though nothing stops them for making smartphones in general
Actually, that's an interesting point. Apple do not manufacture their own hardware, they just subcontract that to companies like FoxConn.

Elop's actions have doomed NOKIA's feature phones to languish and die and Windows Phone has been such an abject failure it has quite possibly irreparably tarnished the NOKIA brand in smartphones too.

If NOKIA do have ambitions to get back to being a serious player in the smartphone arena they might just be better off taking Microsoft's cash and using that to start again completely free of the stinking pile of shite Elop has created.
 

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2013-09-03 , 18:07
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter View Post
Actually, that's an interesting point. Apple do not manufacture their own hardware, they just subcontract that to companies like FoxConn.

Elop's actions have doomed NOKIA's feature phones to languish and die and Windows Phone has been such an abject failure it has quite possibly irreparably tarnished the NOKIA brand in smartphones too.

If NOKIA do have ambitions to get back to being a serious player in the smartphone arena they might just be better off taking Microsoft's cash and using that to start again completely free of the stinking pile of shite Elop has created.
The handheld business has peeked. Nokia will never go back doing phones again. The future is in networks, TVs, streaming services, servers and has been so for some time already.
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2013-09-03 , 18:32
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Wellll...if you look at it in a big picture, Olli-pekka presided over the largest stock drop, and it has been steadily dropping with Olli-Pekka and without him.......so the board decided to axe it.
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2013-09-03 , 18:47
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is there any chances of rejection of this deal by regulatories ? or anyone else ? sorry if it sounds too noob.
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2013-09-03 , 18:52
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The handheld business has peeked. Nokia will never go back doing phones again.
And yet Nokia keeps the patents and the research in that field. I'm not sure Nokia has given up on mobile. Maybe they're "waiting" until the market moves again.
 
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2013-09-03 , 18:56
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
Wellll...if you look at it in a big picture, Olli-pekka presided over the largest stock drop, and it has been steadily dropping with Olli-Pekka and without him.......so the board decided to axe it.
If you'd click on the box for S&P 500 and the Dow you'd see greater market factors at work from 2007 until Elop took over. From then on NOK consistently lost value while the market was in rebound
 
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