actually bt4 is not backward compatible so ship must be dualband.

wl1273 wifi and bt chip has 2.1. so actually there could be a external btchip but i really doubt until prof. one thing is for sure gsmarena and such sites has no clue.

reason i dont beleive in a external bt chip is where is the damn driver lspci do not list any...

Where's the proof that only wl1273 could be used for BT, & not something else?
And where's the proof that wl1273 definitely cannot support BT4.0?

First hit at mr. g:
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtb...emplateId=6123

Source:
http://www.qtness.com/blog/?p=58

Now to use Bluetooth High Speed protocol, it has to be using at least BT3.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetoo...th_v3.0_.2B_HS

I'll get xsacha from whirlpool.net.au...
To see if he can double-check with Nokia Australia senior management once again.


Doesn't demonstrate that wl1273 "can't" support BT4.0.
That just proves that it supports BT2.1 + EDR...
Plus we still don't know for sure that wl1273 is what's used for BT.

@jalyst
Maybe you should learn how to read BEFORE you post. From the link supplied above:
"Supports latest Bluetooth low-energy (Bluetooth 4.0) and Bluetooth 3.0 specifications"

It's more a case of post before read. semantics.
I was actually about to read it in more depth.
Thanks for ensuring I don't have to.

That doco must've been updated recently*, as I'm quite certain I did that search & looked at it once.
Or at least someone else did, & linked to it...

As I hoped-for/suspected all along....
*EDIT*
But to support BT4.0 the chip must be wl1273l, I think lspci reveals wl1273 right?
Could just simply mean the driver there now, will be replaced w/a more suitable one come PR1.1/2.

*doc edit date doesn't seem to have been updated though.

Let's compare sales of the two devices and stock prices of the two companies. I'm not trying to troll here, I'm honestly glad that you and that other guy got your N9 preorders.

I hear preorder amounts in like... 20, 30 per store, if not higher. I'm in a smaller city and the preorders for something like Gears of War 3 was over 110. The local Apple store had over 1000 preorders for the iPhone 4S.

That doesn't say that the stores aren't nice or nicer (not sure how the **** that got pulled into the train of thought) or that Nokia doesn't have the stock - apparently they don't have the 64gb in numbers or people wouldn't be repeatedly looking and asking for them - but you're talking about walking into a store and buying a N9.

Try that in America. Or UK. Or Germany. Or France. Or Canada. Or Japan. Or Mongolia.

I'm being far beyond honest with my statements. The distribution of the N9 is as silly and uneven as the idea of lining up overnight around the block for a mass-produced device. But one means high as heck sales, one adds frustration to your purchase convenience.

We'll have this discussion next year when the Nokia WP7 devices have been released. I want to see the sales. The Mango update isn't making a dent in the US sales yet. It's doubtful that Nokia can save WP7 - and no, I didn't make a mistake on this one, it's not the other way around.

not preorders. the preorders were gone a week before deliverydate to the webstore. this was a physical store i happened to go in to that happened to have gotten the n9 in just moments before i walked in.

For masses of people in front of stores, you need few things. First, hype. That's crutial part. Without it nothing will happen. Second, you need to tell people when it's going to be available. Apple master this two things. Nokia, well... Neither one of them.

You still overlooked that you cannot simply walk into any of the aforesaid countries and buy one.

Nor if the N9 sales will come close in their entirety to what the iPhone 4S did on day one. I blame the distribution of the N9... it should have been better.

Oh, and now we hear that the iPhone 4S is the first Bluetooth 4 phone. I was about to call shenanigans on that, but later found out that there will have to be an update on the N9 to go from BT 2.1 + EDR to BT 4, if it's possible (arguments are ongoing in other threads).

Yet another missed marketing opportunity.