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#11
nevermind. got sources. packages will be ready in few hours.

any volunteers for testing?
 
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#12
can't build classpath 0.97 - looks it does not support jikes.
will try later with older version.
 
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#13
I'm willing to test when you get it up and going.
 
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Originally Posted by JeffLuszcz View Post
I wonder what it's equivalent speed would be under the "Easy Debian" layer?
The problem is that Easy Debian provides Sun Java SE, not J2ME.

If there were some way to run this in "standard" java, that would be cool. But it seems you need this extra JavaME emulation layer... On top of Java (we don't have any hardware Java accelleration), that's going to make this stupidly slow. I mean ssssslllllllooooowwww

Use Epiphany (Gecko) or Midori (Webkit) if you want a fast browser on the tablet and you don't mind using Easy Debian to get it.
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Just for fun, I ran http://demo.opera-mini.net/demo.html in the Debian Kazehakase browser.



Opera Mini, running in J2ME, running in Sun Open JDK, running in Kazehakase, running in Debian, running in Maemo. Sweet!

It isn't the fastest way to browse the net.

Can someone explain how to download and get the microemu layer to run from the standard Debian command prompt? Pretend you were going to run it on a regular Linux computer running Sun Java.
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Ok, so I figured it out how to do it through Easy Debian. And it isn't actually that slow. But with so many good browsers for the tablet, I'm not sure why I'd use Opera Mini, except just to see what it's like.

I will gladly expand on any of these steps if anyone shows any interest.

(0. Install and download Easy Debian stuff)
1. Download MicroEmulator, untar somewhere (I put it in /media/mmc2/java/microemulator)
2. Download Opera Mini, put it somewhere (I put it in /media/mmc2/java)
3. Start Easy Debian as user by running "debbie" from the command line.
4. Not sure if this is necessary, but I did this:
Code:
CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/media/mmc2/java/microemulator
5. Run Microemulator
Code:
cd /media/mmc2/java/microemulator
java -jar microemulator.jar
6. Choose the "resizable" device to get full screen (no fake phone picture). Open the Opera Mini .jad file. I had to try twice; the first time the install stopped, but the second time it worked.
7. Browse the web on Opera Mini.



EDIT: Problems that I've found:
1. Really doesn't want to be full-screened. Even the Easy Debian fullscreen hack doesn't fullscreen it; I had to run "wmctrl -a microemulator -b toggle, fullscreen" to get it to go fullscreen.
2. Text entry is weird. I couldn't get it to do the _ character, you can't highlight text, and it can be tricky to figure out where your cursor is.
3. Password fields are not obscured.
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#17
The (allegedly) awesome thing about Opera mini is not just basic proxy stuff like recompressing images, etc., but also dishing up the whole page, images, etc. through one connection to beat latency. So for those with high-latency mobile connections, it could help.

Of course, there's disadvantages too, both technical and privacy. I'm likely to give it a shot, though.
 
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#18
Wheeee, thanks. I like Opera Mini, after using it on my phone.
Though, I prefer the opera mini mod though:
http://opera-mini.ru/last.html

A version older (3 compared to 4) but vastly superior imo.
 
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This is painful. Possible, but painful. Now does this run MIDP apps? As in Google apps?
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Can anybody tell me how to type texts in edit boxes? When I enter text and click "ok" button, nothing happens. I can't even return back to the previous page. It's the end of the world!
 
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