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#21
Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
Skype ain't goin' nowhere on the n8x0...
It's there for good.
How can you be sure?
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#22
Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
How can you be sure?
MS did not erase history yet by stopping Skype on the Nx00

Maybe they realize by now that such action will only cost them another 1000 or so Skype users.


One of the classic stories regarding the special Nokia + Skype story is still published on a Microsoft server.
They don't seem to be in a hurry to hide the historical existence of the "world's most advanced mobile computer" which development they have helped to prevent and freeze in time and by doing so fully acknowledging the threat it was building up.

In retrospect if Nokia wanted MS to get scared by a scenario of leaking Linux out of Mobiles to Desktops and into consumers minds and guide it to buy the Nokia mobile branch to kill it if not microsoftize it then announcing "this (N900) is step 4 of 5" would make sense.

If Nokia wanted it to be successful they should have kept quiet and not announce or "partner" with Intel which was also a possible honey pot for MS intervention.

So leaving this message on their updated server reminds MS and MS customers that they have actually acquired something substantial instead of the abortion which they helped turn it into, deliberately or not.

https://blogs.windows.com/devices/20...nokia-devices/

“With more than 400 million Skype users worldwide, the integration of Skype on Nokia Nseries mobile computers is a significant step in bringing converged Internet experiences from the desktop to the world’s most advanced mobile computer.
 

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#23
I have thought and thought on this topic...
and there are only 2 possibles I can think of why skype still is allowed to work on the n8x0.

1- We dodged the Great Skypenami!!!! hahaahaha... when everyone else was being erased ... and microsoft was getting rid of skype for old platforms... they overlooked our n8x0's. But I find this thought unlikely... since one thing to bet on is that Microsoft is nothing but thorough when it comes to axing anything that could cost them.

So it is more than likely option two is more plausible.

2- Before Skype was bought by microsoft... I believe (and this I think the more likely) that just as nokia - microsoft cannot release proprietary bits to us ...due to binding contracts with other parties such as skype (at that time) and others... I believe that it is quite possible that such binding contracts at that time made Skype bound to honour such contracts likewise...
Sort of a "Skype-Nokia Death Grip" on each other... as the two fell plummeting, flaming.... into the abyss...carrying our n8x0's into a happily functioning Limbo as a result (colourful imagery eh?).

I highly suspect the 2nd possibility ...
since far greater and more widely used and popular devices have been Skypenami'd since.
I do believe some specific bargains were made, babies sacrificed, and demonic pacts done when the n8x0's were devised.
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#24
I was reading along for the minimum requirements, this blurb was under the "Android" subheading. Though, they way that they word it, I feel as if it were talking about more than just that operating system, more like a general statement.

Originally Posted by Skype Support Page
Skype is fully supported on devices with ARMv7 processors (or processors capable of running its instruction set). Skype can run on devices with ARMv6 processors but video calling is not supported. Examples of ARMv6 processor devices: Samsung Galaxy Ace, HTC Wildfire.
Since n8x0's use the ARMv6 instruction set, and the experience is more or less simlar as the said devices in the quote, wouldn't it also make sense that support should still remain intact for our nits?

Maybe endsormeans is right with the first option and we were spared/overlooked from when the Order 66 was issued onto other platforms.

Another theory, they treat Maemo just like every other distro, with a few exceptions. My gmail account identifies my n810 as a Linux Computer so I can kiiiinda see this being possible. (maybe this is why it was overlooked?)
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#25
I suggest that you guys stop talking about it unless you want to jinx it. Just saying...
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Good point Gerbick.
It's like saying "Everything is just fabulous! What could possibly go wrong?"
The great entity Murphy usually steps in on that cue.
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http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
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http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567

AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
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#27
What about putting efforts into sip, jingle, webrtc instead ?
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Originally Posted by www.rzr.online.fr View Post
What about putting efforts into sip, jingle, webrtc instead ?
That's yielded much of nothing in the last 7 years. Why continue hoping it'll make a popularly used product today by folks that already use Skype?

Simply stated, better protocols do exist, but nobody is using them but a fringe few. I can't get my mother to use anything but Skype. Same for the companies I support. Can't even convince most of you to try anything or make anything if you were deeply entrenched in your choices either.

So why even suggest something that isn't layman friendly today?
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#29
A shame, isn't it?

But: just because.
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#30
Skype has got numerous several in-built flaws; including but not limited to:
  • closed protocol that allows owners to spy on your messages & conversations
  • closed application that allow owners to run unknown and potentially evil functionality on your devices
  • policy of the owners to ban IP addresses at will, for example known TOR entry points
 

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