Originally Posted by TheKit

I know you're not considering it for now, but I'd surely like to have such device with SFOS, even if it's unofficial port. Parts of libhybris-based adaptation could then be reused for another Linux-based OS. Also, there is a thread about porting Freemantle UI to GTK 3.

Could MTK chips be used to lower up the cost? Something about GPD Win price seems reasonable to me.

Originally Posted by www.rzr.online.fr

What about graphics systems ? GPU support ?

If wayland based Tizen/E can be supported too.

What about Nemomobile too ?

Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw

Depends almost entirely on how solid the slider mechanism is, and how nice the keyboard feels to type on.

TOHKBD is cool, but IMO it's pretty horrible to type on because you need to exert so much force to press some of the keys. And obviously the slider mechanism isn't as solid as a mechanical slider (not that they could have done anything about that, since it was a TOH).

I think the neo900 idea of re-using a lot of the quality components of the N900 was sensible for this reason. You don't want to have a device that looks good on paper but in reality has a dodgy, wobbly, flimsy feeling slider.

Originally Posted by pichlo

I would gladly pay 400 GBP (currently 466 EUR, who know for how long) for a device exactly as per Chen's specification.

Originally Posted by chenliangchen

Actually using a community port SFOS will make development easier - the device just needs to ship with non-GMS certified Android and done.

But is the community SFOS really what we want? IMHO it's quite far from a true Linux OS, and has too many components controlled by Jolla.

On the other hand, GPD Win doesn't have any Cellular functionality, which will make a huge difference, regarding Hardware (Soc, modem, RF, Antenna) and software (certification, tuning, adaptation) so it's not really comparable. For that price if you want cellular network, the specs will be much lower.

Originally Posted by chenliangchen

If we can manage to find 3000 Pichlo on this planet and we will have a really nice device that can last for a long time!

Originally Posted by chenliangchen

There is a clear difference between a professional design/prototype/testing/mounding/SMT/manufacturing/quality control team, and a one man product. (I have really no offence to Dirk, in fact given the man power he has done an amazing job)

It will be a commercial product from product lines, which means it will match certain requirement before if leaves the factory. It's won't be 3D printed and will have all the userability and functions tested. If we build a device, this needs to be professional.



If we can manage to find 3000 Pichlo on this planet and we will have a really nice device that can last for a long time!

Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw

If you ever did have a consumer base of 3000 pichlo, you would probably spend your whole budget on customer relations and not achieve very much

Originally Posted by TheKit

Android without Google services feels like a sane option for further software adaptation if it's going to be libhybris-based. Nemo Mobile can be used to replace Sailfish OS proprietary components, but it's far from product quality.

And yes, I understand the difference. GPD Win is relatively high tier due to x7-Z8750 chipset, so there can be some space here.

Originally Posted by chenliangchen

Android without GMS is definitely an option, to me it has following advs:

- Lower the overall cost as there will be almost no front work
- Easier warranty management and law requirement as all the basic function works by default (with Android)
- Lower maintanance cost

If there is not enough upfront funding this will be a good option.

However, the initial idea is to have a "powered by Maemo" device, as a successor to N900/Neo900 and this is against original intention...

Originally Posted by mscion

So you need to find $1.5million (USD) to get this off the ground?