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Hi guys,
Youtube is kindly warning me that they will not anymore support
my nice N800 tablet's Mozila firefox brouser- kindly please let me know how can I upgrade it . Also quote me some suitable Media player so as to watch TV on my tablet. Many thanks
 

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...but nobody to answer me so far....
 
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Sorry....Not alot of people this end of the pool at the moment.... my attention (as well as many others I'm sure ) has been elsewhere or I would have thrown some ideas your way...there is a flash workaround which may be of help with using pages and sites ..... You could use mythtv....you could try streaming from your laptop/desktop...feeds and podcasting is one thing I enjoy....for the most part I transcode alot of film and shows I wish to watch.... ...there is a list either in n800, n810 or in the OS2008 forum...(can't remem. which) that mentions some websites that stream film and live stuff well.....It is a no-thought/work option if you don't want to have to mess with transcoding or the hassle of finding and enabling feeds and casts......the lists may possibly have old or outdated links by now...but it most definitely would be worth checking out....Unless you beat me to it....Over the next couple of days I'll dig around for those particular posts see what I can find.
As far as firefox goes...there is the possibility of workarounds...hacks...updating the browser isn't going to happen....there simply isn't enough people who use the n800 for the firefox team to warrant the time and funds....fooling the browser or using a diff browser or application....ORB...or ..worldtv99 perhaps...with kmplayer is an alternative...there is also the possibility of utilizing turbo easy debian and running say...iceweasel or a program through it that would allow you to use youtube as well as many other programs for that matter.

Update:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=streaming post 4 by Addison concerns downloading/transcoding method of youtube vids easy-peasy

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=12496
2007 post but I believe sites like wwitv , favchannels.com still function fine
and there are many similar.....just a few suggestions ...
as far as current streaming media...lately....haven't played around with much shy of streaming from my laptop...vid and audio podcasts of shows and news...streamtuner and fm radio...
explore and I'm sure you'll find some cool stuff.
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Everything you need tightly explained in layman's terms ..in an easy to understand format.. and a video walkthrough to boot.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

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#4
Thank you very much, Sorry to trouble u . It seems there are only few people interested in N800, although its real privileagues before some newer tablets. As I am not that strong in this materia
I expected to find a link or two to upload, but...
As for TV99 I have it but it streams me only Skynews. I have also Canola but my device can not play clips from YouTube from it.
best regards and nice weekend !


Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
Sorry....Not alot of people this end of the pool at the moment.... my attention (as well as many others I'm sure ) has been elsewhere or I would have thrown some ideas your way...there is a flash workaround which may be of help with using pages and sites ..... You could use mythtv....you could try streaming from your laptop/desktop...feeds and podcasting is one thing I enjoy....for the most part I transcode alot of film and shows I wish to watch.... ...there is a list either in n800, n810 or in the OS2008 forum...(can't remem. which) that mentions some websites that stream film and live stuff well.....It is a no-thought/work option if you don't want to have to mess with transcoding or the hassle of finding and enabling feeds and casts......the lists may possibly have old or outdated links by now...but it most definitely would be worth checking out....Unless you beat me to it....Over the next couple of days I'll dig around for those particular posts see what I can find.
As far as firefox goes...there is the possibility of workarounds...hacks...updating the browser isn't going to happen....there simply isn't enough people who use the n800 for the firefox team to warrant the time and funds....fooling the browser or using a diff browser or application....ORB...or ..worldtv99 perhaps...with kmplayer is an alternative...there is also the possibility of utilizing turbo easy debian and running say...iceweasel or a program through it that would allow you to use youtube as well as many other programs for that matter.

Update:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=streaming post 4 by Addison concerns downloading/transcoding method of youtube vids easy-peasy

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=12496
2007 post but I believe sites like wwitv , favchannels.com still function fine
and there are many similar.....just a few suggestions ...
as far as current streaming media...lately....haven't played around with much shy of streaming from my laptop...vid and audio podcasts of shows and news...streamtuner and fm radio...
explore and I'm sure you'll find some cool stuff.
 
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#5
Ach....it's no trouble...really....and I know it may seem like there are not alot of people using the n800...but there are a ton of users...alot don't post all the time or are busy with other projects understandably.
It's the same with the n810 ...both are good affordable models ... good for practice IMO for the n900 and neo900 and a great deal of focus is right now on the neo900 (n900 successor) .
I'll sit down tonight and do some hunting for you and see how we can get some fun beaten into your n800

Update: Hmm cursory run through using stock browser for youtube of course results in soon discontinued service for youtube....same statement or unusable with unaltered epiphany, iceweasel, opera, midori, or tear browsers....haven't tried any others yet....haven't used flash tweaker yet ....better results may happen with it's use. I'll see if that works any better. I do suggest streaming via your computer or using Addisons method of downloading-transcoding (haven't done it lately...hopefully it still works) until I or someone else comes up with something.
yours- EorM
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5-n900's
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-1 loose usb (i don't muck with it & stress it , considering selling it, another can fix the loose usb)
-1 no telephony (perfect for permanent set-up as mini-pc with one of my monitors)
half a neo900 pre- "bought"....due for production any day now.


PIMP MY N8X0
Everything you need tightly explained in layman's terms ..in an easy to understand format.. and a video walkthrough to boot.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567

AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325

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Thank you so much, but I feel slightly unconfotable making you loose your time... Hopefully it will help also other people using this Great N800 !
best, NIKOLaykolEV
 
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No worries man It isn't a case of pulling me away from anything.
I enjoy the devices too much.
I do suggest streaming from a computer using say ... tversity (if the spelling is correct) on it... to your nokia...

definitely check out Addisons posts concerning downloading-transcoding youtube vids...even write him for suggestions too...He's a good egg .

And check out the transcoding methods I've posted and there are others you may or may not like...check 'em out too. Throw up some updates here every now and again....I'll keep my eyes pealed here...while l plug away at possible working options .
yours- EorM

Update: Hey man...here is a quote from Addison from this year pertaining to an easy-peasy method of download-transcoding youtube vids very quick and easy ...

"I've been using this site quite extensively lately for watching YouTube tv shows.

http://www.clipconverter.cc/

It works best using Tear web browser.

Transcode to AVI, also set it to 768 kbps and keep the 360P default setting.

Make sure to uncheck their new Auto Mode feature.

I've seen this site download a 23 minute show in two seconds and then transcode it in under 2 minutes after that.

Once it's finished, download the converted file.

For Mplayer to be at it's best, you'll need to terminate any running programs, and most likely, even go offline."

That appears to be the best way of viewing youtube that bypasses the whole "mozilla soon to be unsupported issue" ....As long as you can use a browser(such as tear...there may be other browsers that can pull it off...not sure there...so my best suggestion would be to hit Addison up for more details...he would know best) to surf-view- and mark the urls on youtube...you should be able to use this with fab results. Out of curiosity I will looky-loo and dig around some more as well.
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-1 loose usb (i don't muck with it & stress it , considering selling it, another can fix the loose usb)
-1 no telephony (perfect for permanent set-up as mini-pc with one of my monitors)
half a neo900 pre- "bought"....due for production any day now.


PIMP MY N8X0
Everything you need tightly explained in layman's terms ..in an easy to understand format.. and a video walkthrough to boot.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567

AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325

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Thank you very very much Endsormeans, I will try your advices and tell you if any result!
best
 
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Aw shucks Velokin
no worries man... glad to try to help

I just finished messing around with Addisons version.... These more recent posts

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...hlight=browser

explain the difficulty with youtube and the n810/800 more fully and offer a round-about solution. I think that considering the lack of maintainers in the industry for the n810/800 for example the mozilla firefox for your n800 not being viable in the future is proof of that. The Android, IPhone, and M$ platforms having more numbers of end users means the demand is obvious. In the future...my best guess would be that the eventual eroding of most of the browsers for the n800/810 will result in severely crippled or inoperative browsers. The mountain of fixes piling up that will need to be done and most of them are impossible to accomplish even with manpower ....it isn't just writing software to make a new browser...even fix an old one...it's making it work compatibly with the (I hate using this word) "older" hardware and o.s. of the n810/800 (even though it isn't very old at all..it's just the insane pace of change with tech that is the madness at work here.
for example did you see the latest statements from scientists concerning the new standard for displays? 4000+ pixels on a display? They think it ridiculous since the human eye cannot "physically" process past it...so it is truly wasted tech...and now they speak of the "quantum dot" for tv's and devices...going a step further than the 4000+...it makes anything shown on it visually look REAL...very interesting...the display revolution will I believe ..end there...the next step is direct interface with the brain...and I am soooo not interested in that....I do not need someone trying to hack my brain...check out Futurama's "Eyephone" episode ....hehe......enough of this ...back to topic...) n800/810 and the ever altering demands by websites for the latest methods. ...to sum it up.... it will eventually topple alot of the n810/800 browsers...
Backporting from fremantle to diablo is one of the best hopes as far as options go....
Then possible alternate operating systems such as easy debian turbo...even archlinux on arm (ALARM) (it can be cross compiled for the n800...not alot of details or data on it) ...these alternate platforms have a better chance of providing not just an operating system for the devices...but more current ....a browser enviroment more perpetually flexible, adaptable, and which is maintained...fooling the web with a different operating system entirely on your n800 or chrooting and keeping both maemo and an alternate or multiples on sd card....not too hard really...and convenient too with the n800's 2 micro card slots...

So I hate to say it but the steam-roller of advancement is barreling down..hacking and puzzling through stuff is alot of fun..fixing and finding ever dwindling alternate options is not.
Browsers and youtube aside...My next best suggestion is use your desktop/laptop ....stream content from it to your n800...works for me....Or download whatever you want...use easy-peasy mediacoder and my n810/800 preset....works everytime....do batch conversions and away you go.....let her run....then either stream them from your comp. to your n800 or just put em on sd cards. I have a ton of my favourite shows/films transcoded this way.....works for me. or use handbrake...or whatever you find easiest and bug-proof.....best alternative at this point for what you need until a good backport or other option comes around is.... don't fight the incoming tide....use the tech (laptop/desktop) at your disposal to facilitate a non-n800 (impossible) format into one that is n800 friendly....
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Owner of : 1-n770 (in retirement),
3-n800's,
3-n810's,
5-n900's
-3 flawless
-1 loose usb (i don't muck with it & stress it , considering selling it, another can fix the loose usb)
-1 no telephony (perfect for permanent set-up as mini-pc with one of my monitors)
half a neo900 pre- "bought"....due for production any day now.


PIMP MY N8X0
Everything you need tightly explained in layman's terms ..in an easy to understand format.. and a video walkthrough to boot.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567

AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325

Last edited by endsormeans; 2013-12-18 at 06:49.
 
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Thank you for your help!
Merry Xmas and Very Happy New Year to you and the other guys!
All the best
 
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