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Is there a section to talk about Java ME? Apps, etc. (6)
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2008-10-03
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well, there's the battery start too. I agree that when its empty and you plug it, it takes a few moments before it decides to boot. But i don't think its all that bad, either, since its not meant to be booted up all that much.
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2008-10-03
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Hmmm... Sounds like a good goal for Fremantle, doesn't it?
(Realistically, it can't happen before then, because Nokia really doesn't want to jump kernel versions for no good reason. They won't think this is a good reason.)
(Realistically, it can't happen before then, because Nokia really doesn't want to jump kernel versions for no good reason. They won't think this is a good reason.)
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2008-10-03
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http://www.slideshare.net/qgil/osim-...h-presentation
Dunno if someone saw on page 4 the upstart project?
http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
Dunno if someone saw on page 4 the upstart project?
http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
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2008-10-03
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Originally Posted by eliagp
It is 33 seconds without battery start. 20 seconds of blue bar, 13 seconds of Nokia splash screen.
well, there's the battery start too. I agree that when its empty and you plug it, it takes a few moments before it decides to boot. But i don't think its all that bad, either, since its not meant to be booted up all that much.
If it can boot in 5 seconds, why not do it?
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2008-10-03
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Wow, I thought the lwn article was quite interesting. It would be great to be able to boot in five seconds, even without networking.
Couldn't this affect the power-usage of booting and make turning off your tablet a more viable thing to do? It is said never to turn off your tablet, and I only turn mine off when I change batteries, mainly, but it would be nice to get rid of that rule.
Couldn't this affect the power-usage of booting and make turning off your tablet a more viable thing to do? It is said never to turn off your tablet, and I only turn mine off when I change batteries, mainly, but it would be nice to get rid of that rule.
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2008-10-04
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Originally Posted by Bundyo
Yup, and at another point (I think the "Core System" talk) it was announced that initrd is going away. It should be relatively easy to streamline Xorg startup (display, keyboard etc config is fairly static) and we don't have a display manager to worry about, so the main missing ingredient is sReadahead.
Dunno if someone saw on page 4 the upstart project?
Originally Posted by geneven
Well, once you boot you still have to wait several minutes at full CPU while metalayer-crawler eats your battery by re-indexing the contents of your cards. Let's hope the metatracker replacement will be lighter/more intelligent.
Couldn't this affect the power-usage of booting and make turning off your tablet a more viable thing to do?
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2008-10-04
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Originally Posted by lma
Well, it's hard to guarantee an up-to-date database without rescanning on boot; the user could have taken it out and changed it in another system. I could be wrong, but I don't think FAT stored last mount time for comparison; if other systems can be trusted to change a time-stamp on modify, then a fast scan could be made of all timestamps, comparing each directory to a stored copy made at shutdown. (More generally, this could be applied at every mount/unmount.)
Well, once you boot you still have to wait several minutes at full CPU while metalayer-crawler eats your battery by re-indexing the contents of your cards. Let's hope the metatracker replacement will be lighter/more intelligent.
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2008-10-05
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Originally Posted by Benson
It doesn't.
I don't think FAT stored last mount time for comparison
I understand the reasons why cards have to be reindexed at every mount, just unhappy with the cost of the current implementation.
Last edited by lma; 2008-10-06 at 05:31.
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2008-10-05
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Does Arjen include the GUI? Or was it like XFce?
Matter of( Coreboot,) upstart, faster processor, faster I/O, PowerTOP + LatencyTOP investigation.
Matter of( Coreboot,) upstart, faster processor, faster I/O, PowerTOP + LatencyTOP investigation.
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I think we should bug this:http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/
Booting in 5 seconds.
Shouldn't we?