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2013-06-14
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Is it necessary to keep the stock Facebook/Twitter clients installed if one wants to use 3rd-party clients?
I've got some updates coming in for the Facebook & Twitter clients, but I think I'll just uninstall them.
I'm definitely going to have to dismantle my N9 & re-seat the glass overlay/display, the entire left hand side is really rough/annoying
I may as well replace the entire enclosure while I'm at it, so maybe I'll order a white enclosure...
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I've got some updates coming in for the Facebook & Twitter clients, but I think I'll just uninstall them.
I'm definitely going to have to dismantle my N9 & re-seat the glass overlay/display, the entire left hand side is really rough/annoying
I may as well replace the entire enclosure while I'm at it, so maybe I'll order a white enclosure...
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2013-06-14
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#13
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Originally Posted by rainisto
I don't think I ever seen the 11.* but I do remember 22.* which was the PR1.1 for Middle East.
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10.* = PR1.0
11.* = PR1.0.1
20.* = PR1.1
30.* = PR1.2
40.* = PR1.3
50.* = PR1.4
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Does Nokia ever plan on releasing it?
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2013-06-15
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Originally Posted by jalyst
Problem is that you can't uninstall them due to dependencies to some core packages. Or maybe you can, but I suppose the integration is so heavy that many things wouldn't work afterwards.
Is it necessary to keep the stock Facebook/Twitter clients installed if one wants to use 3rd-party clients?
I've got some updates coming in for the Facebook & Twitter clients, but I think I'll just uninstall them.
What you can do is...
Code:
# echo "NotShowIn=X-MeeGo;" >> /usr/share/applications/facebookqml.desktop # echo "NotShowIn=X-MeeGo;" >> /usr/share/applications/twitter-qml.desktop
If you want to add your XMPP account to the integrated messenger:
Code:
$ mc-tool add gabble/jabber xmpp string:account=[name]@[domain] string:password=[password] (adds new account) $ mc-tool list (lists possible accounts) $ mc-tool enable gabble/jabber/[your_account]
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2013-06-15
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Originally Posted by ladoga
You can the option's there in the UI, but as you say, there may be dependency issues.
Problem is that you can't uninstall them due to dependencies to some core packages.
Or maybe you can, but I suppose the integration is so heavy that many things wouldn't work afterwards.
You say "suppose", are you purely guessing that there'd be issues, or does you assertion have a basis in fact/knowledge?
At the moment you're being quite vague, I don't suppose you can elaborate?
...to remove their icons from the applications view.
XMPP thru empathy works fine with all features of other integrated IM's.
With GTalk Voice/Video plugin you can also get XMPP voice and video call support (it uses the same protocols afterall), but that's flaky to say at least.
[Apologies for the double-up of posts, slow edits, & other such weirdness lately, damn internet connectivity issue has reared it's ugly head again]
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2013-06-16
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Originally Posted by jalyst
You want to know what packages are depending on facebook stuff? Ask it to the system!
You can the option's there in the UI, but as you say, there may be dependency issues.
You say "suppose", are you purely guessing that there'd be issues, or does you assertion have a basis in fact/knowledge?
At least on my N9 with PR1.3 (with some non-default packages like evernote-sharing) this is the result:
Code:
# dpkg --list|grep facebook|awk '{print $2}' | xargs apt-cache rdepends
libqt-facebook
Reverse Depends:
facebook-meego
facebookqml
facebook-meego
facebookqml
facebookqml
facebook-meego
facebook
Reverse Depends:
mp-harmattan-001-pr
mp-harmattan-001-pr
facebook-meego
Reverse Depends:
facebookqml
facebookqml
facebookqml
l10n-app-facebook
Reverse Depends:
mp-harmattan-001-pr
mp-harmattan-001-pr
facebookqml
Reverse Depends:
facebook
facebook
l10n-app-facebookshare
Reverse Depends:
mp-harmattan-001-pr
mp-harmattan-001-pr
account-plugin-facebook
Reverse Depends:
facebook-meego
contacts
facebookqml
mp-harmattan-001-pr
webupload-service-facebook
contactsd
facebook-meego
facebookqml
mp-harmattan-001-pr
facebookqml
contacts
facebook-meego
contactsd
webupload-service-facebook
signon-facebookplugin
Reverse Depends:
evernote-sharing
si-helper
mp-harmattan-001-pr
libqt-facebook
account-plugin-facebook
evernote-sharing
libqt-facebook
mp-harmattan-001-pr
libqt-facebook
si-helper
account-plugin-facebook
webupload-service-facebook
Reverse Depends:
mp-harmattan-001-pr
mp-harmattan-001-pr
The shortlist of dependencies, nicely sorted is:
Code:
account-plugin-facebook contacts contactsd evernote-sharing facebook facebook-meego facebookqml libqt-facebook mp-harmattan-001-pr si-helper webupload-service-facebook
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2013-06-16
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Thanks for the thorough investigation....
So indeed it seems that some important stuff won't work properly if FB is removed, I guess the same would be true for Twitter, kinda blows.
That just leaves my 2 remaining Qns in my last post...
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So indeed it seems that some important stuff won't work properly if FB is removed, I guess the same would be true for Twitter, kinda blows.
That just leaves my 2 remaining Qns in my last post...
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2013-06-17
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Originally Posted by jalyst
To answer your two remaining questions:
Thanks for the thorough investigation....
So indeed it seems that some important stuff won't work properly if FB is removed, I guess the same would be true for Twitter, kinda blows.
That just leaves my 2 remaining Qns in my last post...
- With regard to removing applications from the listing in "Manage applications" screen in the UI: No, not really. That listing comes from apt. So, while the apps should remain to support other dependencies, you should also keep them in the database. If they are removed from the database, the according to apt it's the same as uninstalling them, and the dependencies will show up as unmet. (I'm only 97% certain on this point, so if someone wants to counter with something more concrete, I certainly won't take offense.)
- As far as the second point of OOTB XMPP support: yes, it exists. However, it is not displayed in the UI. Therefore, the previous commands shown will work and install the account for use. But, while looking at the commands, you may want to make sure your DNS SRV records for XMPP are in order, as it looks as though that's where it's going to pull the server/port information from.
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(2)
10.* = PR1.0
11.* = PR1.0.1
20.* = PR1.1
30.* = PR1.2
40.* = PR1.3
50.* = PR1.4
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There are flashers avail for OSX, Windows and Linux.
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Last edited by rainisto; 2013-06-14 at 06:57.