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2010-02-15
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Originally Posted by zerojay
I think the key think I've realised today is that there is no "they". Consciously, no thought seems to have been given to anything other than commercials and technology at this point - even the technicians, like dirkhh, have been involved in the website and mailing lists which, given their positions, can't be a long term strategy :-)
We don't even know if they have plans to keep Council around or anything else at this point.
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Originally Posted by RenegadeFanboy
Well, as you point out there's been change here, so we could change MeeGo by joining o'er there. I'm no developer, still I joined. I posed a question on the MeeGo front page about their intention to open up for discussion threads being initiated by others than their official bloggers. Perhaps they see no value in it, and want it to stay strictly a developer community. So be it. It may actually help them to stay focused and get less of the kind of pointless flaming behavior and wasted energy. However, if they are interested in the community aspect beyond just getting developers to work for free on the platform, they may open up a discussion forum of some type. I admit however that I've grown addicted to this forum, our members, the breadth of interest, threads and the sheer convenience of all the features. Not sure it could be duplicated somewhere else.
I think one of the clear values of maemo is that there is end user focus here. It could be improved - as the N900 experience has shown - but the meego site looks like maemo.org some years ago:
every user is expected to be a power user/community champion/developer.
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2010-02-15
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Originally Posted by Gadgety
Just joined you on that
I posed a question on the MeeGo front page about their intention to open up for discussion threads being initiated by others than their official bloggers.
I've started this whole thread out of the belief that we have a chance to influence things for meego too. It worked for maemo, right?
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2010-02-15
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Originally Posted by RenegadeFanboy
Did that as well.
Just joined you on that
I'm such a sheep running with the trendy flow.
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2010-02-16
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Originally Posted by RenegadeFanboy
A few months ago I would have agreed wholeheartedly, but I can't help thinking MeeGo will be better off without what I see here now :-(
One thing I would like to see in MeeGo from the current Maemo community is the forum itself! So,
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2010-02-16
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Ok... so what is it that Moblin brings?
I hope customer service and support.
I hope customer service and support.
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2010-02-16
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Originally Posted by lma
Too late. As I said, I already joined.
A few months ago I would have agreed wholeheartedly, but I can't help thinking MeeGo will be better off without what I see here now :-(
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2010-02-16
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Originally Posted by Rauha
i.e. design by committee, which is the antithesis of everything we have here at maemo.org.
Moblin seems to be a 100% "industry" based open-source community. They have no forum, almost dead mailing list and governance fully based on corporate members.
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2010-02-16
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Originally Posted by zerojay
Yes, unfortunately, I kinda feel this way too. Maemo is a great OS with a great community behind it, and Moblin is yet another netbook OS (and netbooks are generally considered a fad). This might sound selfish, but we (Nokia/Maemo) have the better OS for the market that matters (mobile devices), we should be calling the shots.
I'm not so sure how to see it any other way, honestly. Feels like all our stuff is being dumped for whatever the Intel guys feel is best and I want so badly to be wrong and to think that there was a point to everything we've done here. Instead, it feels like the towel is being thrown in.
We don't even know if they have plans to keep Council around or anything else at this point.
And yet Intel seems to be the main force behind the now infamous change to a Fedora-like system with .rpm, etc.
For starters, low level kernel stuff is probably different: x86 and ARM. But on top of that? Are they using Maemo UI for smaller handhelds, Moblin UI for bigger handhelds...? Are there UI guidelines somewhere? oFono...? Telepathy...? Etc etc??
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