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Why not port a version of POSE (Palm OS Emulator) that would help the palm users switchers use some of their applications while waiting for native corresponding applications ...
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Sounds good to me. Any developers want to look at it?
 
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I'm surprised there isn't more interest in this.

The source for POSE seems to be hosted at sourceforge:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pose/

I'll take a look at it...

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OK looks like you can get palmos 4.12 for POSE emulator here

https://www.developerpavilion.com/pa...sp?page_id=364

(Rom Images -> Release .zip)

POSE needs FLTK, which isn't part of maemo, so the UI needs hildonization

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FLTK 1.1 builds fine in scratchbox, but the deb package wants debhelper 5.. so i just ran make-install.

POSE needs to be patched for FLTK 1.1

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index...89&atid=302189

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Pose PalmOS emulator built and running on Nokia 770!

Temp link:
http://ln-s.net/Nr7

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To run it untar the tgz to /home/user or somewhere else (not on MMC) and run
./pose PalmOS412_FullRel_EZ_enUS.rom

Last edited by ArnimS; 2007-04-05 at 21:59.
 
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Thanks to unique311, who found the following link for PalmOS roms (including the 505 colored OS!

http://www.mobilefan.net/Palm-OS.nsf...OM-Replacement
 
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Very nice, thanks for the port! I'm running it right now on my N800.

Can POSE rotate the screen by 90° or will this remain a dream?
 
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Any screenshots available?

What exactly can you do with this emulation?
Is it a complete emulation of the Palm OS UI.
I have a sony clie nr70v running Palm OS 4 but only really use it as a remote. Maemo is so much better than Palm OS. I hated that bottom middle section for handwriting, took up so much room.
 
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It runs the apps delivered with PALM OS. We're testing a couple of 3rd party apps tonight.

Text input right now works best with a BT keyboard - but handwriting recognition works (albeit poorly).

We could use Palm-savvy testers, and developers for hildonization/optimization. Garage page is up.

https://garage.maemo.org/projects/pose/

Arnim

Last edited by ArnimS; 2007-04-05 at 22:05.
 
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Just had to give you a screenshot.



Clearly display size is an issue, as is text input. Just rotating the display isn't enough, if the goal is to enter text with the stylus.

Any ideas how text input could be best accomplished? It wouldn't be easy to hook-into the emulator itself to detect when a text input field is clicked, so some kind of always-on-screen keyboard would be needed.

Right now i imagine it'd work best rotated and double-sized, with a custom keyboard handled by the application itself. Here's a 'gimp' of what i was thinking...


Alternatively, maybe a rotated native maemo type kbd... Is there any work being done on a rotated hildon / maemo keyboard popup?

Last edited by ArnimS; 2007-04-08 at 09:16.
 
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As a long time Palm user (since 1997), I find this to be one of the most beautiful ports I've seen for the N770. ;-)

ArnimS, I like your idea of rotating and double sizing POSE. If Graffiti recognition is problematic, then an add-on keyboard for POSE would sure be nice for those of us without bluetooth keyboards.

I note from the screenshot above that skins are working. Is there a "trick" to this? For me, POSE complains about not finding skins and then uses the default generic skin.

Thanks very, very much for making the port available.

BlueSpyder

Last edited by BlueSpyder; 2007-04-09 at 09:57.
 
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#10
Great idea! There were quite a few Palm apps that I used to use before switching to my 770. I would love to be able to use them again. Question:
how does one install Palm apps with this POSE app for the 770/800?

thanks,
neil
 
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