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Is there a section to talk about Java ME? Apps, etc. (3)
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2015-04-22
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So a device.maker like HTC for example doesn't want to include alien dalvik and.maps? Strange...
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2015-04-22
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Originally Posted by strongm
I beg to differ. I do not have AD installed and there is not a single app that I am missing.
without Alien Dalvik a device running Sailfish is pretty much a paper weight
(OK, Skype would be nice as no one I know uses anything else but I can happily live without it.)
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2015-04-22
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totally agree..im actually using phone without using android app but i have still alien dalvik installed in case of need..i miss onedrive , telegram, and some bank app.
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2015-04-22
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Originally Posted by strongm
Untrue. I have had the device as my main smartphone (whatever that means) for 1.5 years now and have not ever installed a single android application on my device... You could well say it is pristine and virginal in that sense
Sure - but ports to other platforms do not include Alien Dalvik - and without Alien Dalvik a device running Sailfish is pretty much a paper weight
Originally Posted by strongm
Hmm, last time I looked through all the provided apps in the Jolla store it starts to be quite a respectable amount of software! Did not even count it all but I would not be surpriset if there are more than hundred applications in the store.
(unless you are happy with the provided applications), since Jolla have singularly failed to attract too many developers in to providing native apps
Add all the stuff in OpenRepos to that... plus all the stuff I have ported for myself... it is enough for my needs indeed!
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2015-04-22
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Originally Posted by juiceme
A lot of apps in store are actually android ones and you can argue as much as you can, there are not much apps for Jolla, I think even N9 that was released as dead device by same age as jolla had more apps.
Untrue. I have had the device as my main smartphone (whatever that means) for 1.5 years now and have not ever installed a single android application on my device... You could well say it is pristine and virginal in that sense
Hmm, last time I looked through all the provided apps in the Jolla store it starts to be quite a respectable amount of software! Did not even count it all but I would not be surpriset if there are more than hundred applications in the store.
Add all the stuff in OpenRepos to that... plus all the stuff I have ported for myself... it is enough for my needs indeed!
It's true there are a lot of utilities, but though it's cool to have console and terminal but in 2015 smartphone should have smartphone apps too and not console ones
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2015-04-22
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The apps problem is very real, and it's very disappointing that the store is still so restricted. Openrepos shows a little of what the app store should look like, but even those apps are still missing the investment and polish that paid apps would attract. I really hope now the core OS is stable, they can devote some time to approve mechanisms for developers to do things like run daemons, interact with user data such as calendars and charge for their work. Otherwise, the app store problem could kill the platform altogether.
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2015-04-22
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https://together.jolla.com/question/...-applications/
You can check answers and comments from some people and potential developers.
You can check answers and comments from some people and potential developers.
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2015-04-23
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Originally Posted by ZogG
I counted only the native applications of course. Android apps in the Jolla store are waste of space IMHO anyway.
A lot of apps in store are actually android ones and you can argue as much as you can, there are not much apps for Jolla, I think even N9 that was released as dead device by same age as jolla had more apps.
And talking about N9, it had a huge range of applications available in the store, can you honestly say there was something you missed?
All in all, there are just about 2-digit number or so of possible applications that anyone could need, of course the personal mix of what you find useful might differ between people
I see no real need to have 10^6 applications in a store... Many people think that WP is bad because the windoze application store is limited; That is untrure. WP is bad because it is rigid; you cannot extend it, you cannot make the darn box do want you want to. It has nothing to do with the number of applications in store. iPhone has gazillion apps and it also sucks for the same reason.
Originally Posted by ZogG
Care to elaborate? Why would it be important to have "smartphone apps" whatever you mean by that?
It's true there are a lot of utilities, but though it's cool to have console and terminal but in 2015 smartphone should have smartphone apps too and not console ones
Isn't it more important that you can accomplish all your tasks with the device easily and optimally without any extra hazzles, wouldn't you agree that the smarter the device is the less time you need to keep squinting at the UI and tapping at silly small buttons on it?
Having a console and real OS tools means you can automate a lot of tasks to the point that you need not touch any kind of UI. Try doing that on WP or iDevice. On Androidid is possible but more painful than on an OS built for that kind of workflow.
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2015-04-23
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Totally agree with @juiceme, with less than 20 apps, you cover 95% of the user needs.
And regarding the support of paid app, juste have a look around the web. You'll read many articles about the fact that making a leaving with paid apps is a kind of mirage.
And regarding the support of paid app, juste have a look around the web. You'll read many articles about the fact that making a leaving with paid apps is a kind of mirage.
Last edited by jalyst; 2015-04-23 at 07:11.