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2012-10-11
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
He didn't bring Nokia to the mess it is internally, but, he hasn't helped either.
You didnt seem to understand the article. NOKIA was going to be number 100. pre-Elop guys new it and jumped ship. Elop is the fall guy if thinks fail, he is a hero if they succeed. Blame pre-Elop Nokia, not Elop. Its like saying that Obama caused economic collapse in America.
Let's face it, the only Lumia to make an impression is the 920 and only because of the PureView.
Even their sales state clearly that Lumia hasn't sold much.
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2012-10-11
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Lol, you guys always comes to elop vs pre elop stuff. Always end up in same discussion 
Atleast one Good post from a inside nokia insider before the mess.
Last edited by Dave999; 2012-10-11 at 21:16.
Atleast one Good post from a inside nokia insider before the mess.
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2012-10-11
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Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE
This is absolutely correct. Look at the numbers in Tommi Ahonen's new blog article here:
Once again:
untill fall 2011 , Nokia was at #1
http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...-elop-now.html
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2012-10-11
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Originally Posted by michaelmhk
This is correct. Symbian is divided into branches.
If I Recall Correctly, there has internal struggles between even symbian teams also. Each Symbian device supported by a specific team. In addition to nokia own proprietary api, most symbian device have poorly api compatibility. e.g. query wrong screen resolution etc.
If problem was found in one branch release it was that persons responsibility to notify other related branches. This caused finger pointing when trying to issue fix sometimes because if the person noticing a problem was seen as "below" the other engineers, they did not carry the same influence in their reports. The problem was maybe only they see it because they did something wrong. They were seen being below other engineer teams in skill level. It was not uncommon for verbal insults to be thrown due to egos.
Meanwhile problem turns into valid bug and gets released...
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2012-10-11
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All I hope is for the Jolla leadership to learn from these mistakes. They will hopefully have a focus and strong leadership to get projects accomplished. But coming from a dysfunctional background can be a problem. It's like a drunk hoping to reach enough sobriety to accomplish his daily task. Is Jussi Hurmola the right leader? Don't know. I guess we will find out. I am skeptical.
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Originally Posted by Hacker
Number 1 selling Taleban phones...not a statistic to be proud
This is absolutely correct. Look at the numbers in Tommi Ahonen's new blog article here:
http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...-elop-now.html
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2012-10-11
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*Check the dates in 2nd image. Check @ end of 2010 , early 2011. When Ellop talked about the "burning platform" @ wp strategy.
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*Check the dates in 2nd image. Check @ end of 2010 , early 2011. When Ellop talked about the "burning platform" @ wp strategy.
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Shipments != sales
Nokia was turning to sh1t with or without Flop. He's just a pantomime villain.
Nokia was turning to sh1t with or without Flop. He's just a pantomime villain.
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2012-10-11
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Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE
Taleban phones. Who wants them now? Greeks?
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*Check the dates in 2nd image. Check @ end of 2010 , early 2011. When Ellop talked about the "burning platform" @ wp strategy.
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Anyway, interesting article that confirms a lot of the rumors that wafted through these forums in one form or another (confirmed or unconfirmed).
The inner-struggles explains a lot of the implicit anger from some Nokians that seemed to be fighting to swim upstream a river of crap. Oh well, the collapse was inevitable, the market wanted something new, I hope that Nokia finds it of else they'll be a memory rather soon.