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#71
Originally Posted by nokiabot View Post
why not a new fresh partial sticky thread or placing it in first post by any of the project managers ? It is destined to get burried and newcomers to the project wont notice it either.
Some announcement on Neo900 website would be handy as well...

...oh wait, that's me who's responsible for that! Let me hide in the corner then - but with text editor of course
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#72
Originally Posted by nokiabot View Post
Lol :10 chars: why not a new fresh partial sticky thread or placing it in first post by any of the project managers ? It is destined to get burried and newcomers to the project wont notice it either.
Newcomers to the project are not supposed to worry about the finally fixed mistakes we made during early phase of Neo900 project. This whole thing is only relevant for those who already donated to GDC account.

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#73
why don't you guys make use of crowdfunding websites, like Kickstarter?
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#74
Originally Posted by HtheB View Post
why don't you guys make use of crowdfunding websites, like Kickstarter?
simple answer: kickstarter doesn't like Europe. Real reason: we don't like kickstarter.
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#75
Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
simple answer: kickstarter doesn't like Europe. Real reason: we don't like kickstarter.
/j
Kickstarter just started in the Netherlands.

and also, there are more websites like indigogo....?

there are many (geeks) people out there who haven't heard about this project..
This is why kickstarter would be a good place to show the project.
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#76
Originally Posted by HtheB View Post
Kickstarter just started in the Netherlands.

and also, there are more websites like indigogo....?

there are many (geeks) people out there who haven't heard about this project..
This is why kickstarter would be a good place to show the project.
I didn't know about kickstarter now allows European projects. Anyway the concept seems incompatible with our approach to donate to a development that has a (however small) risk to fail and not result in a product.
We may consider kickstarter et al for 2nd batch, when we actually got a product and thus are certain about its feasibility, properties/specs and price.

/j

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#77
Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
Meanwhile I suggest and ask you all to simply agree on GDC forwarding your refund to the Neo900 UG account
How specifically ?

and to add your email- addr into the subject of such transfer.
Just to clarify, this is something we should ask GDC to do ?

- Werner
 

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#78
Originally Posted by wpwrak View Post
How specifically ?

Just to clarify, this is something we should ask GDC to do ?

- Werner
Posts here are just "FYI". Goldelico will send an e-mail to every donor with detailed instructions.

So if there will be any action required, it will be described in the e-mail, so no need to worry about that
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#79
Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
I didn't know about kickstarter now allows European projects. Anyway the concept seems incompatible with our approach to donate to a development that has a (however small) risk to fail and not result in a product.
We may consider kickstarter et al for 2nd batch, when we actually got a product and thus are certain about its feasibility, properties/specs and price.

/j
I am glad that you are not considering Kickstarter. Based on the iControlPad 2 fiasco (do a search for "icp2 kickstarter" for the background), I can only conclude 3 things:

1. Kickstarter and Amazon Payments skim a lot off the top
2. Kickstarter is risky for developers, since their TOS requires that the end result is tangible product returned to the backers (or full refunds, presumably)
3. Kickstarter is risky for backers, since Kickstarter doesn't appear to enforce their TOS as mentioned above

Kickstarter is good for a lot of things, but electronic hardware development and production is probably not one of them.
 

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#80
Originally Posted by wpwrak View Post
How specifically ?

Just to clarify, this is something we should ask GDC to do ?

- Werner
I suppose GDC will implement two buttons to your customer order management page you received the URL in your invoice
Please forward my refund to Neo900 UG
Please send my refund to this account: "BIC:____; IBAN:_____; Bank Name:____"
Then you'll receive a mail from GDC asking you to visit your customer order management page and select either of both. I don't know exactly what Nikolaus is planning to do, but this approach seems least effort for customers and him.

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