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aegis	2013-12-13 , 15:10
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Has anyone tried this yet?

https://github.com/phatina/simple-mtpfs

It's an MTP file system using FUSE. Should work on Linux and Mac.

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att	2013-12-13 , 15:12
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Originally Posted by richardyates

With the help of a friend who writes qt programs, i've been trying to install the Tweetian beta. Unfortunately my friend is currently in Sydney which is a hindrance since I'm in the Uk. We have installed the qt dependencies need, but keep hitting the rpm.lock, and that won't delete either

Any ideas? what is the default password for su?

(please go easy on the reply, I can type accurately to enter commands, understand them a lot less)

Use pkcon for installations. In case you have used rpm or zypper directly.

In Settings: System settings: Developer mode enable Developer mode and Remote connection. Input a password and tap Save.
Then in Terminal app run "devel-su" command and give it the password. You are now root user on the system, so be careful because in the worst case you can brick the phone.

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herpderp	2013-12-13 , 15:12
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Originally Posted by rainisto

Generally end users just press yes to all privilege questions, so there is no point of asking, as its just one useless dialog that bothers the end user experience. There is no point of asking question that users dont understand anyways (well yes 1% do understand, but do you want 1% to spoil the experience for 99% of other users). Those 1% are able to do their own hardening in developer mode anyways (as you can freely tweak android app permissions from commandline).

This is not a satisfying answer to those users who are in those 1% (I would argue that their percentage is substantially higher than that). And I'm sure I'm not alone in not wanting to waste my time hardening something that should be safe in the first place (one app's data from another app, without authorization).

But fair enough, at least a straight answer. I see this kind of security is not in Jolla's first priority.

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richardyates	2013-12-13 , 15:13
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Originally Posted by ste-phan

sometimes there seems to be a purple color cast, I have noted this on the other examples as well.

Exif data does not identify the camera as "Jolla"?

I notice your Flickr identifies the Lumia 1020.

Most of the recent pictures are indeed Lumia 1020. When I look at the exif info, the phone is identified by its processor as ARM&HD (or whatever it is I forget. The pictures side by side are noticeably bluer on the Nokia than the Jolla. The Jolla pictures remind me of the N9 and 808, which I guess is their heritage

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richardyates	2013-12-13 , 15:14
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Originally Posted by att

Use pkcon for installations. In case you have used rpm or zypper directly.

In Settings: System settings: Developer mode enable Developer mode and Remote connection. Input a password and tap Save.
Then in Terminal app run "devel-su" command and give it the password. You are now root user on the system, so be careful because in the worst case you can brick the phone.

Thanks:-) Noted:-)

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att	2013-12-13 , 15:15
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Originally Posted by aegis

Has anyone tried this yet?

https://github.com/phatina/simple-mtpfs

It's an MTP file system using FUSE. Should work on Linux and Mac.

I use it to access Jolla from my Fedora Linux laptop. Fedora starts automatically Gphoto2 to access Jolla but for some reason Gphoto2 doesn't work with it.

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gerbick	2013-12-13 , 15:42
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Originally Posted by att

I use it to access Jolla from my Fedora Linux laptop. Fedora starts automatically Gphoto2 to access Jolla but for some reason Gphoto2 doesn't work with it.

So what does work with it?

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	benny1967	2013-12-13 , 15:42
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Originally Posted by Philippe

For mass-storage we need to have a separate FAT partition to have it work on all OS's.

OK - now is this the answer to my question why mass storage was naturally supported on both the N900 and the N9 but isn't on the Jolla Phone? Because the Nokia models hat FAT partitions that the Jolla has not?

(Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to argue in favor of FAT now or anything like that. I just felt that the explanation "everyone's moving away from mass storage in favor of MTP" is not satisfying for someone who used only mass storage on all Maemo devices so far, including Maemo 6. I can live with a good explanation why Jolla didn't include mass storage, as I could live with the N900 not supporting MMS given its complexity. I only feel that "everyone's moving away" isn't a good explanation.)

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att	2013-12-13 , 15:56
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Originally Posted by gerbick

So what does work with it?

I dismiss Fedora's dialog to open Gphoto2 and then I run simple-mtpfs from command line to mount Jolla. In some cases the first mount can fail. In those cases unmounting and mounting again fixes it for me. Then you can access data and photos with any software that uses normal filesystem syscalls for accessing them.