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2010-06-25 , 15:12
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It seems that Microsoft

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/18/w...roid-with-its/

Apple, of course

http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/j...s-kill-switch/

and now, shockingly google

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/g...witch-for-the/


All seem to reserve the right to remotely 'clean up' your phone. Does this seem like a little bit of a slippery slope to anyone else?

I don't see any way that Nokia would have this capability right now, but who knows if the ovi store ever gets really full
 

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2010-06-25 , 15:19
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How do we know there isn't one?
But seriously, with all the confusion i see at nokia hq, they have bigger problems
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2010-06-25 , 15:26
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Eesh, I hope if there is one that they would give us the option to turn it off. I'll decide whether I want an app removed or not.
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2010-06-25 , 15:38
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Eesh, I hope if there is one that they would give us the option to turn it off. I'll decide whether I want an app removed or not.
Well if MeeGo takes off like I hope, we can always produce a community build that omits any sort of "remote kill" switch
 

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2010-06-25 , 15:48
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It seems that Microsoft
Apple, of course
and now, shockingly google

All seem to reserve the right to remotely 'clean up' your phone. Does this seem like a little bit of a slippery slope to anyone else?

I don't see any way that Nokia would have this capability right now, but who knows if the ovi store ever gets really full
This is ridiculous.
If I buy a device, why don't I have the right to do with it what I want?

Seriously. If I buy a product, don't I have the right to do so?
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2010-06-25 , 15:51
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I expect once we get proper DRM (probably on the next device), then kill switches could be implemented.
 
Laughing Man is offline Laughing Man
2010-06-25 , 15:53
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Well if MeeGo takes off like I hope, we can always produce a community build that omits any sort of "remote kill" switch
Considering Nokia planned for the next Maemo (now Meego) to have DRM. I don't think we could easily. Apparantly the choice was to be..

DRM mode (limited configurations)

Non-DRM mode (as a result, no access to DRMed apps) but full configuration.

Sadly, no middle ground (unless you pirate the DRM apps for Non-DRM use).
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They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
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2010-06-25 , 15:54
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This is one reason I like the N900. I worried they'd add this in the PR1.2 firmware, which is why I keep copies of the older firmware around. Worst case we can always revert vai re-load of the base image.

Mind you, all three have only used it for removing apps that had/were malware (Google used it against a banking app written by a phisher that was not affiliated with the bank in question, for example). But the fact that it exists, and isn't blockable, would be enough to make me twitchy if I owned one of these.
 

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2010-06-25 , 15:55
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
Considering Nokia planned for the next Maemo (now Meego) to have DRM. I don't think we could easily. Apparantly the choice was to be..

DRM mode (limited configurations)

Non-DRM mode (as a result, no access to DRMed apps) but full configuration.

Sadly, no middle ground (unless you pirate the DRM apps for Non-DRM use).
I'm aware of that. And like I said, a community release can ensure it is stripped. I fully intend on running in a no-DRM mode for all of my devices, and any developer who demands I give up control of my device can go stuff it
 

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2010-06-25 , 15:56
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Heh.. this is "Freedom #1!!!!11" talk allover again... but unless we can help Nokia police the pirates, then DRM is the best 'defense' they have.
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