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2010-04-13
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Originally Posted by ivgalvez
Neither of those are in extras - they're both in extras-devel currently. cmake is also in the Nokia System Software repository (not checked whether that's the same version or not though).
Hi,
I have recently found that most development packages, actually promoted to extras, like Subversion or CMake are almost non-optified.
Particularly CMake takes about 10 Mb of space, so it's very easy to end up with the phone completely full if you try to install a full development environment.
So I have tried to file a bug on Maemo's bugzilla and what a surprise, there are no packages listed but only user applications.
How could these packages promote to extras consuming so much space in rootfs?
What kind of testing process take the non-end-user applications?
How can a user report a bug to these non listed packages?
I find it quite weird being used to Debian/Ubuntu package management.
Thanks in advance.
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2010-04-13
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Originally Posted by Rob1n
OK, Subversion is in devel, but CMake isn't.
Neither of those are in extras - they're both in extras-devel currently. cmake is also in the Nokia System Software repository (not checked whether that's the same version or not though).
Anyway, the questions are still valid.
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2010-04-13
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Originally Posted by ivgalvez
Yes, and no - the Nokia repositories are totally outside the Maemo.org QA process, so there's no promotion/testing process anyone here is involved in. From what I've seen, the Nokia policy seems to be not to optify anything in the System Software repository.
OK, Subversion is in devel, but CMake isn't.
Anyway, the questions are still valid.
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2010-04-13
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Originally Posted by ivgalvez
i thought all the "official" repositories intended for the end user are the ones that are preinstalled in the app-manager.
OK, Subversion is in devel, but CMake isn't.
Anyway, the questions are still valid.
and none of them hosts CMake. i guess as long as its not in "nokia application", "nokia systemsoftwareupdates", "ovi" or extras, it doesnt need to be optified, i guess.
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2010-04-14
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Originally Posted by Rob1n
Thank you for your response. The case is that installing CMake on the phone makes the system almost unusable due to rootfs consumption, and I don't see how to file a bug against an unexisting package in Bugzilla.
Yes, and no - the Nokia repositories are totally outside the Maemo.org QA process, so there's no promotion/testing process anyone here is involved in. From what I've seen, the Nokia policy seems to be not to optify anything in the System Software repository.
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2010-04-14
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Originally Posted by javispedro
Thanks, that's my next move.
To do any serious (aka complete, packaging, etc.) on-device development it's much easier to use a chroot.
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2010-04-14
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You are aware that the packages you are referring to are not supposed to be on device? They are intended to be used in scratchbox.
As javispedro suggested, you could make your environment on a mmc card and work there. Assuming you really want to do everything on device.
As javispedro suggested, you could make your environment on a mmc card and work there. Assuming you really want to do everything on device.
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2010-04-14
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Originally Posted by tekojo
Yes, my only intention is to be able to compile little modifications when I'm away from home and keep my code synced with Subversion.
You are aware that the packages you are referring to are not supposed to be on device? They are intended to be used in scratchbox.
As javispedro suggested, you could make your environment on a mmc card and work there. Assuming you really want to do everything on device.
Anyway I'll try to prepare the chroot environment for on-device development.
I have recently found that most development packages, actually promoted to extras, like Subversion or CMake are almost non-optified.
Particularly CMake takes about 10 Mb of space, so it's very easy to end up with the phone completely full if you try to install a full development environment.
So I have tried to file a bug on Maemo's bugzilla and what a surprise, there are no packages listed but only user applications.
How could these packages promote to extras consuming so much space in rootfs?
What kind of testing process take the non-end-user applications?
How can a user report a bug to these non listed packages?
I find it quite weird being used to Debian/Ubuntu package management.
Thanks in advance.
Last edited by ivgalvez; 2010-04-13 at 18:07.